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“Will you vote for Biden in the 2024 election?” [Y/N]

  • @chiliedogg
    12•10 months ago

    Biden is a terrible candidate, yes.

    But it really is a choice between an old man I think is a bad candidate or a literal treasonous fascist. And no amount of bellyaching will change that.

    So I’m gonna hold my nose, vote Biden, and encourage more people to be active in the primary elections to prevent this bullshit.

      • @chiliedogg
        2•10 months ago

        Trump also committed war crimes. And it’s not like he wouldn’t be even worse when it comes to treatment of Palestinians.

        Yeah. It’s a shit choice. But it’s still a binary one and no amount of squeezing your eyes tight and wishing it were different will change the reality that the next President will be either A Republican or a Democrat.

        You aren’t going to make you voice heard by voting third party or sitting out. Anything other than a vote for Biden is a decision to support Trump.

        So make your choice.

        • @Maggoty
          0•10 months ago

          I don’t care about Trump. I’m not voting for him. There isn’t a world in which he could earn my vote. I care about Biden. I was told to hold my nose and vote for him. I was told I could pressure him to do the right thing. I told other people to do that.

          And now we’re giving literal bombs to a genocidal regime and Biden is acting like we don’t exist.

          I’m choosing to “get off the bus”. It’s no longer going somewhere I want to go.

          • @chiliedogg
            2•10 months ago

            So what you’re saying is that because you don’t like Biden’s handling of Isreal/Palestine that you’re going to passively support someone who would handle it even worse on behalf of a party that’s controlled by a doomsday cult that actively wants WWIII to break out there?

            You’re on this bus, like it or not. You can’t choose not to participate, because sitting on your hands has real consequences.

            Last time Trump saw in charge he split the country worse than it’s ever been divided since the Civil War, dismantled the agencies that would have prevented a pandemic that killed millions, supported fascist regimes while trying to install one here, and committed war crimes and assassinations, and poisoned the federal judiciary for decades.

            If he were still President, there would be millions of dead Ukrainians and he would have stated carpet-bombing Palestine directly by now.

            If he gets re-elected, or will be because of people who think that choosing not to participate is a legitimate option, and you will be responsible for every nightmarish thing he does except for the mishandling of Israel.

            • @Maggoty
              -2•10 months ago

              I don’t have any say in his policies. That’s why it’s on politicians to earn votes. The entire system is meant to flush out politicians who refuse to listen to their constituents. Putting responsibility on the voters to show up regardless of that makes the entire system useless.