• @iopq
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    -19 months ago

    Great, use Matrix

    • db0
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      9 months ago

      I’ve used matrix. I am still using matrix. Just not for anything with a significant community

      • @iopq
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        39 months ago

        NixOS uses it, and it has the biggest repo out of any distro, so I’d consider it a significant community

        • db0
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          Great. Which means NixOS has enough volunteers to handle that part. I don’t.

      • Venia Silente
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        39 months ago

        Servers & clients use too many resources.

        Didn’t XMPP solve that in, like, 1999?

        (Really, what is with devs and nu-protocols these days? Back in my days you could run a webhost on a potato)

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          29 months ago

          The did, but Matrix is coming to reinvent that while but by wasting resources trying to duplicate the state of everything at massive storage costs & without the extensibility because JSON.

      • @iopq
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        19 months ago

        There’s a Mozilla home server as well, so federation is working.

          • @iopq
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            19 months ago

            The server itself doesn’t matter, you can migrate it to AWS or your own physical server if you oenn the domain

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              19 months ago

              The server does matter when it comes to who is collecting all of the metadata, data, attachments. …And having that all that data centralized around a single entity is a problem.

              • @iopq
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                19 months ago

                In this case that would be Mozilla, not the host

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                  Matrix.org hosts Mozilla’s Matrix server. Further, the way all data is synced to all servers means if someone with a Matrix.org ID joins your room (which is most users), all data is synced to the home server. Almost all of the data is in Matrix.org’s possession & with the servers being as expensive as they are to run, more orgs shutdown when popular causing users to flock to the mother instance.

                  • @iopq
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                    19 months ago

                    Hosting the server doesn’t mean you get to access the data. My server is hosted on Oracle, but that doesn’t mean they can access it