@kthalps

They didn’t refute their Jewishness. They “refute their Jewishness in a holocaust being hijacked by an occupation which has led to conflict for so many innocent people,” which is precisely what you’re doing by misquoting them.

@bungarsargon

I simply cannot fathom the moral rot in someone’s soul that leads them to win an award for a movie about the Holocaust and with the platform given to them, to accept that award by saying, “We stand here as men who refute their Jewishness.”

  • @[email protected]
    39•10 months ago

    Not trying to refute that the holocaust was primarily about the genocide of Jewish people (which is true), but just adding some additional details about lgbt persecution around that time many might not be aware of.

    The nazi laws used to persecute lgbt individuals were only repealed in part in 1969 in west Germany and 1968 in east Germany. Many lgbt individuals imprisoned by the nazis were left there after World War 2 and not freed like other groups. They continued to be imprisoned well after World War 2 (about 50,000 in west Germany between 1945 and 1969). The laws weren’t fully repealed until 1994, and judgements not annulled until 2002. Until more recently they were not acknowledged among the victims. Jewish individuals or political prisoners that were also discovered to be lgbt were even made ineligible for survivor benefits. Victims only began to be offered some sort of compensation in 2017. I’m also not trying to insinuate that Germany was the only country with these kinds of attitudes, which were and are still very widespread in the world of course.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20220217041539/https://rm.coe.int/079317-queer-in-europe-during-the-second-world-war-web-web/16808e4a53