Gore
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Gore is a fully voiced, lore-friendly, standalone follower I have spent the last six months writing. This mod is dedicated to my friend, Eden 'Solaria' Knight. You will never not be loved.

Look, if this post is too heavy for this community, feel free to remove it. Admittedly this is a very serious subject, and it occupies something of a grey area regarding suitable discourse that I’m uncertain of. But Gore is one of the more popular of the recent batch of follower mods to hit the Nexus, and it’s because this situation is so serious that I feel there needs to be greater attention brought to it.

For those who aren’t familiar, Gore was a follower written both as a way for the mod author to express deeply personal feelings about traumatic experiences that occurred in their own life and as a memorial to a transgender friend of theirs who passed away. In order to be welcoming to the greatest possible audience, Gore had dialog options in order to refer to players by non-binary pronouns, and in response to some backlash against the above, Gore’s dev also uploaded optional textures that could be used to add top surgery scars to Gore, implying that Gore himself was transgender.

I imagine that these traits attracted a certain. . .audience of individuals who found the premise unpalatable.

Regardless of what one personally thinks about a follower being handled in the way Gore was, the fact that the situation ended in this manner concerns me deeply. Harassing not just the individual themselves, but someone’s real life contacts over a follower mod being written in a divisive way is terrifying, and it sets a nightmarish precedent for how the Skyrim modding community might conduct itself in the future. I feel the need to discuss what happened here because not acknowledging issues like this just leads to them festering further.

The community here at Lemmy is small. But I think we should put our best foot forward in holding ourselves to a high standard. We should strive to maintain a civil, friendly demeanor not just on Lemmy, but in the Skyrim community as a whole. To that end, it’s important to know what behavior is not civil and friendly, and what situations we should do our best to try to put a stop to if we see signs of it ramping up in the wild. Harassment of this nature is very much one of those situations. So I’d like to propose this. Let’s do whatever little we can to ensure that a situation like this never happens again. If harassment is against the rules/TOS of a website, it should be reported. And if not, I strongly recommend pushing back against it. The Skyrim modding community deserves to be a place where people can feel safe. Let’s make sure it is one.

EDIT It appears that development on Gore has resumed.

There is. . .a lot to unpack, but the TL;DR of it is that the people that Gore’s mod author has accused of targeting his friends and family were a pair of women that he also claims had an unrequited crush on him and targeted him for that reason??? And in response, those two women have in turn accused him of being the one to have a creepy unrequited crush on them and that have threatened to doxx them and have posted on a now-deleted Reddit thread outlining their side of the story. This story seems highly plausible on its face, however one of the two accused individuals has been going back and making posts and edits after the thread has already closed that make her narrative increasingly shaky. Most notably, she claimed that another follower mod author named RabbittWinri was opposed to her repeatedly bringing up information about a third party because RabbittWinri was afraid said third party would be targeted by Gore’s developer and his friends, which I personally decided to confront RabbitWinri about and received an incredibly blunt and noticeably confused response denying.

EDIT 2 SO IT TURNED OUT MY OWN RESEARCH FORESHADOWED A BIGGER REVELATION

The evidence posted against Gore’s developer has been revealed to be highly manipulated. The Reddit moderator that previously trusted the women who pressed counter-allegations against him has confirmed the legitimacy of this. I’m posting in bold text because considering the misinformation we’ve been fed, this update is important.

New information can be found HERE: https://www.teddit.net/r/skyrimmods/comments/14qwcap/regarding_recent_allegations_about_me_and_my_mod/

Part of my speculative discussion in the comments below this post involved suspicions of malicious editing in an image. AS IT TURNS OUT, THIS IS OUTRIGHT CONFIRMED TO APPLY TO THE AUDIO FILES, THE MOST DAMNING PART OF THE INITIAL REDDIT THREAD

YOUTUBE LINK TO REFUTATION, WHICH IS ALSO PROVIDED IN THREAD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTSoLGBSask

The new Reddit thread also contains a full transcript of events compiled by a different moderator than the one involved in the post, for those hard of hearing.

In case it isn’t clear, I would also like to point out that it’s Alarycia’s testimony that was refuted in the full footage which is now available. My own research turned up flaws in mookymilk’s narrative. So it seems that both of them really were lying in tandem for some reason.

  • @CoricusOPEnglish
    2•1 year ago

    Now that new information is out, I have an additional post I’d like to make about something odd that I saw in the initial Reddit thread, that I feel now has new context with what was revealed in the new Reddit thread.

    So, in the new Reddit thread, THIS was the middle paragraph of what Gore’s mod author posted and part of the video, which, uh

    At the tail end of this video, alarycia claimed that Thallassa, and the other Skyrim mods subreddit admins and discord mods, bought her [NSFW] to blackmail her about her [NSFW], and that they were behind all of this. If you’ve seen any of what happened on the subreddit, you would know thallassa was the mod she and mooky went to publicly denounce us on the subreddit and have in her corner. It is our belief she made these allegations up about them, just like she did the ones about us, so our two modmin teams would not have any communication. So that she could get away with cutting and cropping DM’s and tell Thallassa that she was doing so because she was [smack] taking other women in our server that she tried to involve in this. The reality is she was [smack] talking thal and making horrific allegations about her, and the other women on their modmin team.

    Even in this crazy situation, this is absolutely insane. But I’d been thinking about something odd that mookymilk posted in the initial Reddit thread for a while that I think this might just put into additional context.

    All things considered, [Gore developer’s name] could’ve just taken the L on the mod, rather than have his actions exposed publicly. You would have rathered no one know and just kept developing your mod. It was the merciful option so as not to cause an uproar.

    This

    is weird.

    The more I stared at it, the more it didn’t make sense. Wouldn’t taking down the mod draw attention publicly to Hayden’s actions? Wouldn’t ceasing development draw more attention? How would this situation involve Gore’s mod author “taking the L” on the mod, when Gore actually had nothing to do with the accusations posted outside of being how everyone met? How would taking it down be “the merciful option so as to not cause an uproar?”

    And the more I stared at it, the more I was like. . .wait, doesn’t that sound like blackmail?

    Like none of the allegations were ever the point, and for whatever twisted reason this was all one huge ruse to get Hayden to take Gore down?

    And I was like, no, no, if I say that I’ll look insane. Even I felt a little crazy for thinking it.

    But in light of the information exonerating Gore’s developer, it’s been put into a bit of a different perspective for me. If Alarycia and mookymilk claimed that everything they did to Gore’s developer was stuff he actually did to them. . .and now with the new information presented, they’ve been caught claiming that the Reddit mod that stood up for them blackmailed them, it puts it in a different light. What if all this was blackmail in some bizarre fashion? And this statement in the initial Reddit thread just. . .slipped out, because mooky was so excited to carry on the ruse that she accidentally hinted at the truth.

    . . .I don’t know, this has been a wild situation, and it has me thinking some wild things.