In a bid to address the city's drug crisis — and the crime and homelessness that come with it — San Francisco voters shifted right in Tuesday's primary, approving ballot measures that aim to boost enforcement powers.
No, it isn’t. That’s my point. Everyone else is given money without such preconditions. No matter how severe their drug addiction. Only the desperate have such placed on them.
Yeah and sure, its a fair point. Honestly curious though, do you think we should just cut out the middle man drug lords then and just provide the addicted with the fent directly? Like just consider it part of the welfare if that’s what they want? Why force them to deal with with stuff that can be cut, adulterated, or what have you?
Considering the drug war has been a total failure, maybe we shouldn’t worry about so-called drug lords. And weaning people off of an addictive substance slowly can be quite effective, so yes, giving them a specific amount of fentanyl under the care of a doctor could certainly be a treatment option. And, again, they have legitimate pain issues which they will not be able to afford to deal with because they’re the poorest of the poor and those people don’t get care for chronic issues they can’t pay to deal with… so they’ll probably just go back to using anyway.
We’ve been focusing on the drug war and not on the nation’s healthcare issues for decades. What has it gotten us?
I only mentioned drug lords because, well, theyre just another obstacle between the addicted and the thing they’re addicted to. May as well remove it, and give them a guaranteed quality product. I’d be 100% on board for treating their chronic pain issues. Nobody should have to live with that and I agree, it’s a factor that could lead to them returning to using again.
I just wonder though, what happens if they want more than you can give them? How do you wean them off? Is the goal to even wean them off? What stops them from just going somewhere else and buying more than what you give them?
If they want to buy more, shouldn’t that be their choice? Currently, we just imprison them for doing that. It’s like arresting someone for attempting suicide. That’s not going to make them less suicidal.
It’s very unlikely that you will be able to get someone to quit long-term if they don’t want to. So why punish them for it?
Oh I see. When you said paychecks, I thought you were referring to the welfare checks, and that they will still receive them even while using. That is what I said that the measure provides for.
And no, it doesn’t apply to money earned from working at a job because the money people earn at their jobs is not taxpayer money being given with the intent to help someone get back on their feet, like welfare is.
The measure puts that same restriction on employee paychecks on all businesses in the city? Really?
Uh, where are you seeing that? That’s not part of the measure, as far as I can tell.
https://voterguide.sfelections.org/local-ballot-measures/measure-f
No, it isn’t. That’s my point. Everyone else is given money without such preconditions. No matter how severe their drug addiction. Only the desperate have such placed on them.
Yeah and sure, its a fair point. Honestly curious though, do you think we should just cut out the middle man drug lords then and just provide the addicted with the fent directly? Like just consider it part of the welfare if that’s what they want? Why force them to deal with with stuff that can be cut, adulterated, or what have you?
Considering the drug war has been a total failure, maybe we shouldn’t worry about so-called drug lords. And weaning people off of an addictive substance slowly can be quite effective, so yes, giving them a specific amount of fentanyl under the care of a doctor could certainly be a treatment option. And, again, they have legitimate pain issues which they will not be able to afford to deal with because they’re the poorest of the poor and those people don’t get care for chronic issues they can’t pay to deal with… so they’ll probably just go back to using anyway.
We’ve been focusing on the drug war and not on the nation’s healthcare issues for decades. What has it gotten us?
I only mentioned drug lords because, well, theyre just another obstacle between the addicted and the thing they’re addicted to. May as well remove it, and give them a guaranteed quality product. I’d be 100% on board for treating their chronic pain issues. Nobody should have to live with that and I agree, it’s a factor that could lead to them returning to using again.
I just wonder though, what happens if they want more than you can give them? How do you wean them off? Is the goal to even wean them off? What stops them from just going somewhere else and buying more than what you give them?
If they want to buy more, shouldn’t that be their choice? Currently, we just imprison them for doing that. It’s like arresting someone for attempting suicide. That’s not going to make them less suicidal.
It’s very unlikely that you will be able to get someone to quit long-term if they don’t want to. So why punish them for it?
Oh I see. When you said paychecks, I thought you were referring to the welfare checks, and that they will still receive them even while using. That is what I said that the measure provides for.
And no, it doesn’t apply to money earned from working at a job because the money people earn at their jobs is not taxpayer money being given with the intent to help someone get back on their feet, like welfare is.