• @[email protected]OP
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      -188 months ago

      Yes, it’s all cynical, but interesting to see.

      Specially when many communist/socialist militants but every Russian idea, while Russias ideals are totally against to what communists in West want

      • @[email protected]
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        148 months ago

        How about you just admit that you’re anti-abortion instead of trying to frame this Russian propaganda as interesting.

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          I’m also anti abortion, if abortion is seem as contraceptives. That’s why there are condoms. It someone gets arrested for using abortion as contraceptive I won’t mind…if they don’t get arrested, I also won’t mind.

          But I would not abort myself and I would vote for prohibiting using it as contraceptive method.

          In case of rape or fetus death or seriously mental or health issues on fetus I’m for allowing abortion.

          • @[email protected]
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            108 months ago

            How generous of you, except that those who you align with aren’t so generous and your claim that this should be state by state leads to the literal rape victims going to jail for losing a pregnancy through no fault of their own. In short, you have no business in these discussions because yours is untrustworthy opinion.

            • @[email protected]OP
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              -78 months ago

              Well, you obviously won’t get it thru nationwide voting because you don’t have enough votes… your only chance is state-wide vote.

              Or move to Europe.

          • queermunist she/her
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            68 months ago

            Something I’ve been thinking about recently, maybe you can help-

            If you believe abortion is murder, then it seems you believe it is okay to murder the children of rapists.

            • @[email protected]OP
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              -68 months ago

              I said in case of rape I’m for abortion.

              This whole abort: yes or no is stupid. It depends on situation.

              I am against abortion as contraceptive. For other edge cases I’m open to it.

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                58 months ago

                If your moral beliefs about murder are circumstantial, they’re not your morals, they’re your opinions.

                If you truly believe abortion is murder, rape babies have a right to be born.

                If you believe in exceptions for rape, shows what you really care about is controlling women. Basically “the only moral abortion is my own”.

                • @[email protected]OP
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                  -18 months ago

                  No, it means I am against, but in the case that the women didn’t have a choice (like rape), I’d be sorry for the baby and be very sad, it would still be bad for the child, but I’d accept it with a heavy heart for the child

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                    38 months ago

                    You’re playing word games here. Is it murder to abort a rape baby?

                    If you accept it with a heavy heart, you’re acknowledging abortion is not murder.

                    Murder is wrong, but your ”heavy heart” does not justify taking away a woman’s right to control her body.

              • queermunist she/her
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                48 months ago

                Please explain yourself. Why are you for abortion in the case of rape and why are you against abortion as contraceptive?

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                  -58 months ago

                  By abortion as contraceptive I mean “I don’t want to use a condom, I’ll just abort later”. I am against that.

                  If someone don’t want to have a child, just use a condom, or do a vasectomy, or remove the uterus, or use a intra uterine device, or any other method, but don’t banalize it with the mindset “whatever, I’ll just abort it later”

                  • queermunist she/her
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                    Yes, I already knew what you meant.

                    I want the why. What’s wrong with the mindset “whatever, I’ll just abort it later” and why are you against it?

                  • @tmjaea
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                    And if the condom fails, is abortion then okay?