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They have, in certain places, anyway. They are never alone, either. But i believe it is hyper important to have these conversations in the open. It is important to be aware of who is influencing people towards what ends as well, of course, but we must also be ready to call them out in the commons here along with the methods they use. Theyre much craftier than they were in 2016, presumably bc the left is that much harder to co-opt than the right.
Right on. Yeah, making people aware that they’re here to disrupt and use bad faith bullshit to try and convince people to not vote absolutely needs to be called out- and frankly, I’m amazed that mods allow this bullshit under “free speech” rules.
I’m not here to advocate that Biden is a great choice, but I’d never side with the MAGA hats in any way in order to make a point about the political system in America.
It goes beyond that. Theyre goal is chaos. By convincing the anarkiddies that theyre on to all the problems in the world and throwing in just the right amount of chinese/russian reverence, they are essentially tapping into a huge reserve of (honestly) righteous social disdain. Thats much like how bannon/milo went after the soon to be trumpies thru gamergate. A wealth of social discord waiting to be exploited.
Take note, before the api changes on reddit, leftist subs,
Hardly banned anyone
Did not delete comments
Embraced all leftist positions as open to debate
Largely rejected the (at the time) few anti-voting posts.
Encouraged independent thought over groupthink. This is somehow most important.
This has all changed. Since jumping ship i cant say things look that much better here, but there are genuine leftists here who do care about discourse and not all subs/instances ban u for calling things out for what they are. Nevertheless, heres what things looked like on the darkside at the time of my departure.
Since the api changes, ive been banned for not initially calling out the whole anti vote thing, but for being able to back up my arguments with critical thinking, even from subs like therightcantmeme.
I first noticed it when overnight a bunch of new leftist spaces started popping up and gaining popularity. I mainly remember ultraleft. I took a peak, and it was nothing but tankies circlejerking over not voting with some foreign propaganda thrown in for good measure. They poured all over the other subs which all spammed antivoting garbage. And shit was so vile, like just plain hateful to a very comicbook like extent. And they all ban dissenting opinions!
But the best(worst) was seeing tge, “im new, whats the ancom(or other anarchist affiliation) view on ____?” posts. There was a time when ppl like this were told, in short, to think for themselves on this sort of stuff. Not great for recruitment, but great for independent critical thinkers.
You think this was me taking bait? Nope. This is just calling out a troll.
Shill*
They consistently parrot russian and chinese talking points under the guise of being objective
Gotta be careful what you call them. They can get you banned.
They have, in certain places, anyway. They are never alone, either. But i believe it is hyper important to have these conversations in the open. It is important to be aware of who is influencing people towards what ends as well, of course, but we must also be ready to call them out in the commons here along with the methods they use. Theyre much craftier than they were in 2016, presumably bc the left is that much harder to co-opt than the right.
Oh I absolutely agree. 100 percent. And I do the same. But I’ve paid the price for it.
Given the fact that my upvote for u keeps ur comments scores at 1, id say it seems ur lightly paying the price via downvotes now :p
Again, calling attention to the problem helps, imo.
Right on. Yeah, making people aware that they’re here to disrupt and use bad faith bullshit to try and convince people to not vote absolutely needs to be called out- and frankly, I’m amazed that mods allow this bullshit under “free speech” rules.
I’m not here to advocate that Biden is a great choice, but I’d never side with the MAGA hats in any way in order to make a point about the political system in America.
It goes beyond that. Theyre goal is chaos. By convincing the anarkiddies that theyre on to all the problems in the world and throwing in just the right amount of chinese/russian reverence, they are essentially tapping into a huge reserve of (honestly) righteous social disdain. Thats much like how bannon/milo went after the soon to be trumpies thru gamergate. A wealth of social discord waiting to be exploited.
Take note, before the api changes on reddit, leftist subs,
Hardly banned anyone
Did not delete comments
Embraced all leftist positions as open to debate
Largely rejected the (at the time) few anti-voting posts.
Encouraged independent thought over groupthink. This is somehow most important.
This has all changed. Since jumping ship i cant say things look that much better here, but there are genuine leftists here who do care about discourse and not all subs/instances ban u for calling things out for what they are. Nevertheless, heres what things looked like on the darkside at the time of my departure.
Since the api changes, ive been banned for not initially calling out the whole anti vote thing, but for being able to back up my arguments with critical thinking, even from subs like therightcantmeme.
I first noticed it when overnight a bunch of new leftist spaces started popping up and gaining popularity. I mainly remember ultraleft. I took a peak, and it was nothing but tankies circlejerking over not voting with some foreign propaganda thrown in for good measure. They poured all over the other subs which all spammed antivoting garbage. And shit was so vile, like just plain hateful to a very comicbook like extent. And they all ban dissenting opinions!
But the best(worst) was seeing tge, “im new, whats the ancom(or other anarchist affiliation) view on ____?” posts. There was a time when ppl like this were told, in short, to think for themselves on this sort of stuff. Not great for recruitment, but great for independent critical thinkers.
Idk.
Very well said. I think you nailed it.