He wasn’t a physical danger. Yeah he was being annoying, and yes he shouldn’t have been trying to go into the court but the taser is there as a non-lethal way to put down a true threat. Not somebody that’s just annoying as fuck.
He might not have been actively a physical danger, but he did make it physical. He was told no and still tried to push through. He then gets angry (indicated by him telling them not to touch him despite them simply standing firm). He then reasserts his intent to go past them. He gave every indication of escalating the situation. That’s a definitive threat. I don’t think they should have to play his stupid games and just push him back until he becomes more and more threatening.
He showed absolutely no sign of trying to attack. All he did was walk towards a person. He was just an annoying sovcit. Again…Yeah. On a personal level…he had it coming. Lots of people walking around should have their ass kicked for their behavior and lots of people id cheer if I heard it happened. But that wouldn’t make it legal
The sovvy physically pushed his way into P. Barnes. P. Barnes is law enforcement assigned to that courtroom. Laying hands (or shoulders or knees) on a LEO is a crime in the US. Whether the taser was necessary is a separate issue.
It’s… Literally the issue we’re discussing right now though. Whether or not he should have been tased. Whether or not he was actually posing an immediate physical threat, whether or not it looked like he was actually about to start attacking people and needed to be put down.
But yes I agree the way he was pushing himself into our hero barns was illegal. But the taser isn’t the ‘you broke the law’ gun it’s the ‘this man needs to be stopped immediately before he causes serious harm’ gun.
I’m going to be honest… He wasn’t really in the right to taze him. Legally.
Yet … He’s a true American hero for doing so and I love him so much.
Why don’t you think he was in the right?
He wasn’t a physical danger. Yeah he was being annoying, and yes he shouldn’t have been trying to go into the court but the taser is there as a non-lethal way to put down a true threat. Not somebody that’s just annoying as fuck.
He might not have been actively a physical danger, but he did make it physical. He was told no and still tried to push through. He then gets angry (indicated by him telling them not to touch him despite them simply standing firm). He then reasserts his intent to go past them. He gave every indication of escalating the situation. That’s a definitive threat. I don’t think they should have to play his stupid games and just push him back until he becomes more and more threatening.
THIS.
He showed absolutely no sign of trying to attack. All he did was walk towards a person. He was just an annoying sovcit. Again…Yeah. On a personal level…he had it coming. Lots of people walking around should have their ass kicked for their behavior and lots of people id cheer if I heard it happened. But that wouldn’t make it legal
The LEO is expected to use experience and judgement, not try be a mind reader until it’s too late in a hallway full of people.
The sovvy physically pushed his way into P. Barnes. P. Barnes is law enforcement assigned to that courtroom. Laying hands (or shoulders or knees) on a LEO is a crime in the US. Whether the taser was necessary is a separate issue.
It’s… Literally the issue we’re discussing right now though. Whether or not he should have been tased. Whether or not he was actually posing an immediate physical threat, whether or not it looked like he was actually about to start attacking people and needed to be put down.
But yes I agree the way he was pushing himself into our hero barns was illegal. But the taser isn’t the ‘you broke the law’ gun it’s the ‘this man needs to be stopped immediately before he causes serious harm’ gun.