Having large numbers of people starve to death seems like a pretty damning indictment of a system. But I dunno, maybe I’m overly attached to food?

  • @Jimmyeatsausage
    link
    13 months ago

    Well, yes. Those are just the names of places. There were other Soviet/communists famines as well. All said, about 50 million died in various communist-nation famines. This isn’t a defense of capitalism…it’s just stating facts. If we actually want to reduce suffering, we need to be objective. As far as capitalism v communism goes, as far as I can tell, they’re both very flawed systems prone to authoritarian takeovers. I think the best we’ve got right now is the sort of socialist-democratic systems we see in northern Europe where most businesses are still privately owned, but markets are severely regulated. Education and elections are well-funded from public coffers, so it’s a fair playing field. Governments are comprised of multi-party coalitions that help force hard-liners to compromise, and no-cinfidence votes make it easier to reform government when it isn’t working well.

    • Grayox
      link
      fedilink
      63 months ago

      The British East India Company killed 40 million People. And that is just one singular corporate entity.

      • @Jimmyeatsausage
        link
        23 months ago

        And 40 million sex-selective abortions happened under China’s one-child policy, 30 million starved during the 40-yr-famine and an additional 4 million outside Ukraine in the USSR. The problem isn’t communism/capitalism it’s authoritarian vs democratic.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          33 months ago

          20 million people die from starvation, lack of access to clean water or preventable disease under capitalism EVERY YEAR.

          These are solvable problems but its not profitable. 1/3 of food produced globably is thrown away. We’ve plenty of solutions for access to water. Preventable disease, it’s in the name.