“We’re really at an infant stage in terms of our clinical ability to assess traumatic brain injury,” a medical expert said.

Before he ended his life, Ryan Larkin made his family promise to donate his brain to science.

The 29-year-old Navy SEAL was convinced years of exposure to blasts had badly damaged his brain, despite doctors telling him otherwise. He had downloaded dozens of research papers on traumatic brain injury out of frustration that no one was taking him seriously, his father said.

“He knew,” Frank Larkin said. “I’ve grown to understand that he was out to prove that he was hurt, and he wasn’t crazy.”

In 2017, a postmortem study found that Ryan Larkin, a combat medic and instructor who taught SEALs how to breach buildings with explosives, had a pattern of brain scarring unique to service members who’ve endured repeated explosions.

  • @Sekrayray
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    419 months ago

    I know I’m a minority but as someone who works in emergency medicine I think the opposite.

    If you come in thinking you have something there’s probably good reason, and I damn well better be sure you don’t have it if I’m going to send you home. You know your body better than me. It may not mean we test for it, but I need solid clinical decision making tools to support not testing for it

    • @acetanilide
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      219 months ago

      Usually that tool is that I’m a woman

      • @mrcleanup
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        259 months ago

        It could be an embolism, but first let’s check to make sure you aren’t pregnant…

      • @Sekrayray
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        39 months ago

        I don’t understand, do you mean risk stratification in a specific clinical practice guideline based on gender?

        • @acetanilide
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          229 months ago

          I mean that doctors (emergency or otherwise) tend not to listen to me because I am a woman.

          This changes when a (cis, white) man is present.

          • @Chocrates
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            169 months ago

            Happened to my ex wife, and I assume it keeps happening. She has Graves disease for years and told Drs something was wrong, but since she was heavy they just told her to lose weight.

            It was left so long by the time they caught it that the cognitive decline that thyroid problems give you, were irreversible

            • @acetanilide
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              39 months ago

              Thats terrible :( I am so sorry

          • @Sekrayray
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            99 months ago

            I’m sorry that happens to you. Unfortunately it’s a documented phenomenon (especially with rheumatologic diagnoses—I’ve explained that to residents a lot).

            Here’s to hoping more attention to this leads to better education which can prevent it.

            • @acetanilide
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              39 months ago

              Thank you - and thank you for doing your part to educate residents!

    • @captainlezbian
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      109 months ago

      That’s how it should be. It’s astonishing to me that some doctors don’t take the chance that the patient might be right

      • @Sekrayray
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        59 months ago

        I just don’t understand how you can ethically practice with the opening assumption that your patient is wrong.

        I get just as angry when staff get judgy about who goes to the ER when. Everyone defines their own emergencies. It’s why we’re there 24/7/365. For a lot of people we are the only no questions asked lifeline that’s always open (at least in the US)

    • @[email protected]
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      89 months ago

      Was also sadly my experience. Got a cut because of a collapse, told them that I have heart failure since a kid and this felt strange, but they never did any tests, just wanted to send me to the psych unit.

      That was a pretty fucked evening…

      • @[email protected]
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        29 months ago

        What’s the rest of the story? (If you don’t mind sharing) This feels wildly incomplete.

        • @[email protected]
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          39 months ago

          Well, the doctor that sewed my cut was quite reasonable and I could at least leave.

          All that happened because of an anonymous call, that I just had a long term relationship behind me.

          Thing is, that they just ignored my initial report, as they immediately switched to the story of an anonymous caller. Which is a pretty shitty move

          Anything more in details, and I’ll completely lose my pseudonymity, sorry

    • @VinnyDaCat
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      89 months ago

      Yeah, you’re definitely in the minority.

      It’s a shame too. A lot of this occurs due to the egos of medical professionals, rather than genuine concern that the patient might be going off the basis of misinformation.

    • @mods_are_assholes
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      69 months ago

      I’m sure you think this and for people with decent insurance it may be true.

      Never once have I ever received adequate medical assistance in my entire life.

      Hell I was once even sent home with appendicitis AFTER testing confirmed it.

      American for-profit medicine is a joke and untold people die from it every year.

    • @[email protected]
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      19 months ago

      #notanexpert . my understanding that ER/ED basically only have moderate responsibility to judge that you will not die and sue them in the next ~24h after an event. they tell you to seek further primary care when discharged.

      • @Sekrayray
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        59 months ago

        The job of EM is stabilization and resuscitation. That takes a wide array of forms depending on your presenting condition. There is no “time limit” on what entails a safely dischargeable condition—if you present with chest pain, we CT you, and don’t find an immediately emergent cause of your chest pain, but in the process we fail to tell you about the lung nodule on your CT that turns out to be a CA that kills you in several years we are still liable. Maybe in certain states we are not medical legally liable at that point, but I would argue that we ethically still are. We are still all physicians (unless you’re getting treated by an APP).

        In the context of stabilization and resuscitation I personally have the take that if you present with something I can’t adequately diagnose in the ED (let’s say I can rule out life threats but you still have a condition that is compromising your quality of life) then for the next step I really have to ensure adequate follow up for you (subspecialty referral, etc). That goes for the underinsured as well. It can get tricky, but that’s what case managers and social workers are for. Maybe I’m just biased because I work in academics. In general if you need emergency care I highly recommend that you go out of your way to get to an academic center because you’ll be more likely to get plugged in in this regard.