• Gormadt
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      -38 months ago

      It’s an incredibly stupid movement where people are saying that they won’t vote as a protest to not liking either candidate.

      Usually said by people who have little to lose if Republicans win, seem to think revolution is a viable possibility if Republicans win, and/or think that by not voting something good might happen.

      Also people who don’t understand that our system is a First-Past-the-Post system and the only group of people who are trying to get support for not voting in this election are people on the left.

      So I’m not as many words: people trying to guarantee a victory for trump.

      • @go_go_gadget
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        48 months ago

        I’ll be voting but it won’t be for Biden or Trump. If you want me to vote for him then figure out how to make him listen to the people he’s depending on to get elected.

        • Gormadt
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          -48 months ago

          There’s no such thing as the perfect candidate so voting for the person you hate the least is the best option for preventing the person you hate the most from winning.

          I’m not a fan of Biden but he’s way fucking better than trump and his fellow Republicans.

          • @go_go_gadget
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            48 months ago

            No. I’m not going to continue to reward moderates and liberals for being inflexible. If they’re not willing to do it now they’re never going to be and fascism isn’t just a possibility it’s a guarantee. Let’s get it overwith.

            • Gormadt
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              -18 months ago

              And by not voting you’re ensuring that positive change will have a much harder time occuring.

              Local elections are very important and pushing for more progressive local candidates can help to influence policies on the national stage. And if there’s no candidates you like in your locality you can try to run yourself.

              There’s more elections than just the election for president.

              • @go_go_gadget
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                38 months ago

                And by not voting you’re ensuring that positive change will have a much harder time occuring.

                Liberals and moderates by not materially compromising with leftists and progressives are ensuring that positive change has and will continue to have a much harder time occurring.

                Your judgement cuts both ways you know.

                • Gormadt
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                  -38 months ago

                  Liberals and moderates by not materially compromising with leftists and progressives

                  They are way more likely to do so than Republicans that’s for sure

                  All you have to do is look at voting records to see that

                  All you have to do is see the break down for who voted for the Respect for Marriage Act for an easy example

                  • @go_go_gadget
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                    18 months ago

                    They are way more likely to do so than Republicans that’s for sure

                    Give me an example of liberals and moderates making a material compromise with leftists and progressives during Biden’s term. Show me any time they have sacrificed a policy position in order to get the votes of progressives and leftists.

      • @[email protected]
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        38 months ago

        Exactly. A bunch of people, often from the propaganda instances lemmy.ml, loudly saying on a platform dominated by the left that people shouldn’t vote.

        The Kremlin wants Trump to win so they can continue their barbaric land grab in Ukraine.

      • @[email protected]
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        18 months ago

        Again, I haven’t seen anything like that. I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming that you aren’t dumb enough to be confusing the noncommitted movement of the DNC Primaries with the general election in November. You’re not that dumb, right?

        • Gormadt
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          -28 months ago

          Don’t make the mistake of believing that just because you haven’t seen something that it doesn’t exist.

          We all exist in media bubbles and in those bubbles we miss a lot. By seeing this meme you could say that your media bubble has finally bumped into the bubble where people openly talk about not voting.

          Hell there’s comments in this comment section on the note of not voting.