• @Nudding
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    08 months ago

    We aren’t voting our way out of the climate apocalypse lol.

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      8 months ago

      I mean, one option accelerates it faster. So while we don’t solve it that way, there’s still impact.

      • @Nudding
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        -68 months ago

        Both options accelerate it. One pretends not to, though.

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          28 months ago

          You’re just saying things you want to be true because it feels good, if you can’t see the huge difference between parties then you clearly haven’t been paying attention

          • @Nudding
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            08 months ago

            One is business as usual neoliberalism, as the climate actively breaks down around us. The other is open fascism, while the climate actively breaks down around us. Third option is we collectively overthrow our capitalist overlords and redistribute our wealth globally and try to reduce our impact on the climate as much as possible, while the climate actively breaks down around us.

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              08 months ago

              The climate is a huge issue for sure but things really aren’t as bad as doomers want you to think, we can turn this corner and as unlikely as it seems humanity is actually taking it seriously and working on it.

              The water wars are a favorite example of mine, pretty much all the areas in the list of places we were told to expect water wars now have solar powered desalination plants. Some of them have other wars but that’s beside the point.

              Renewables are now significantly cheaper and easier than fossil fuel so we’re going to see that transition continue at an increasing rate as markets mature- we’re also seeing huge energy saving developments like heatpumps and leds dominate markets. Even America now has more solar than coal and real plans in operation to improve rail systems, etc.

              There are some big projects to automate freight for example which could greatly increase the efficiency and utility of trains thus making it a much more popular option and helping end the dependency on road vehicles. And that’s just the things already underway, we’ve still got a few decades before we really need to have control of emissions so there’s plenty of other developments to help us as long a we can keep the ball rolling.

              I feel like I’ve written a lot you’ll want to yell about so I’ll save why I think a better, freer, people powered future is basically inevitable and that the best and only moral thing we can do is try to fold capitalism away neatly by building the replacement out from under it.

              And yes I know your heart yearns for hate and destruction of the capitalist bastards but you have to realize that is capitalist and imperialist thinking which is incompatible with a better world. Focus not on those you hate but those you love, work for solutions that help people live better and we’ll all lift the capitalist yoke off together.

              • @Nudding
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                -18 months ago

                I disagree, I think we’re fucked.

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                  08 months ago

                  I know I’ve been there, it’s nice because you don’t have to face the anxiety of the future if you can pretend it isn’t going to happen.

                  The problem is you end up spiraling into darkness, it’s only when look up at the light and hear the sounds of everyone else having fun that you realize you need to crawl from the mire you’ve wallowed in too long.

                  The world is a great place, enjoy it and look for positive things, you’ll be surprised how many there are.

                  • @Nudding
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                    -18 months ago

                    Lovely platitudes lol, ignorance is bliss, my friend.

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          28 months ago

          Accelerate compared to which other realistic option?

          Acceleration only exists in relation to a reference point. With no voting system that allows for more than two parties that have a chance, Trump is the one who would accelerate things.