• @[email protected]
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    59 months ago

    Given that office drone would cover any job that isn’t service, manufacturing or laborer, it’s not exactly surprising that you’d find one. I’m a software developer.

    It’s almost always best to assume that other people’s jobs actually take some form of skill, because they always do. People get paid for a reason. Otherwise you fall into the trap of calling huge swaths of work “unskilled labor” and thinking they don’t deserve much pay, just because they’re just moving stuff around on the shop floor.

    What do you think those emails the managers are sending are, if not work?

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      9 months ago

      You don’t understand though, because it’s not physical (software of any kind) and even if it is (any hardware) because you aren’t constantly doing something it’s not work!!

      As an admin who got push back from the sales team, everyone has… Unique perspectives on what is and isn’t work.

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        29 months ago

        The old; how do you know someone is a software developer? Yup, they tell ya!

        I think I really touched a nerve with that guy though, and it seems like they want to be an office drone instead of working from home (this is the bit where the “senior software devs + team manager” argue they need to collaborate, in person) with a nice life balance.

    • ladfrombrad 🇬🇧
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      09 months ago

      I know exactly what those emails are because I have to deal with them asking me if a wagon that I’m looking at has arrived yet.

      So I email them back telling them that it’s arrived (they knew that already because goods-in already updated the checking in sheet) and they get to validate their job somehow by asking me, shit.

      It’s quite amazing how they keep their jobs.

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        19 months ago

        So you can dismiss someone’s job because you, a person whose job it is to look at wagons, got an email you didn’t see the point of?

        If they have the sheet, why do they need you to work there and look at the wagon at all?

        Now, I know your job definitely has more to it than looking at wagons and confirming their existence.
        My point is that the person who sent the email does too. It’s rare for a job to actually have no point and no work associated with it.

        • ladfrombrad 🇬🇧
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          09 months ago

          Well, maybe your workplace wouldn’t put up with these people but I can confirm that besides them not being able to use SAP to check the quantity of a BOM, to like I said - they have access to the other functions / data but prefer to delegate them to others.

          So it ends up going down a hierarchy until someone else does what these managers could do themselves in the first instance.

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            19 months ago

            And they spend all their time forwarding these queries to people lower down the hierarchy and that’s all they do, eh?

            You should probably get a new job if your company has that much dead weight and no direction.