Ukraine: NATO membership a question of 'when, not if' – DW – 04/03/2024
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NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg has reportedly floated a five-year, €100 billion package that allies are set to discuss in Brussels. Ahead of the meeting, he said Ukraine's NATO membership was a question of "when, not if."

NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg has reportedly floated a five-year, €100 billion package that allies are set to discuss in Brussels. Ahead of the meeting, he said Ukraine’s NATO membership was a question of “when, not if.”

  • @saltescEnglish
    9•3 months ago

    When is a long time away. There’s conditions for joining and NATO can’t break its.owm charter on this, lest they’re not really NATO anymore.

    • @takedaEnglish
      22•3 months ago

      While there are conditions, you seem to imply that not having a border dispute is one of them, but that’s actually not true, other countries with border disputes did join NATO in the past (see Greece and Turkey for example). It ultimately comes down to votes.

      • @[email protected]English
        7•3 months ago

        Greece and Turkey’s were primarily with each other though, and they were admitted together such that it became a dispute within NATO rather than between a NATO and non-NATO state

        • @saltescEnglish
          2•3 months ago

          Which also has its own article in the charter. Basically NATO doesn’t involve itself if NATO nations are quarreling. Other nations of NATO can still involve themselves as much as they like, but under their own flags.

      • @saltescEnglish
        0•3 months ago

        I’m not implying.

        The Parties may, by unanimous agreement, invite any other European State in a position to further the principles of this Treaty and to contribute to the security of the North Atlantic area to accede to this Treaty. Any State so invited may become a Party to the Treaty by depositing its instrument of accession with the Government of the United States of America. The Government of the United States of America will inform each of the Parties of the deposit of each such instrument of accession.

        Currently this is agreed by…

        New members must uphold democracy, which includes tolerating diversity.

        New members must be in the midst of making progress toward a market economy.

        The nations’ military forces must be under firm, civilian control.

        The nations must be good neighbors and respect sovereignty outside their borders.

        The nations must be working toward compatibility with NATO forces.

        The principle conditions can change, go, etc. but Article 10 won’t see the votes happen if the current principle conditions listed above aren’t being or can be met upon joining. This is why it’s coincidence you bring up Turkey who had their membership under threat during the 2016 coup attempt as it conflicted with the first and third principles. However, they were met upon joining back in the '50s.

        Since Russia obviously won’t be joining, Ukraine joining won’t suddenly have Russia agree with NATO that it’ll do it’s part too to ensure the conditions are met by Ukraine henceforth.

    • @Windex007English
      0•3 months ago

      I can live with NATO2