I do care to listen. Listening is what made me realize how untrue what you’re saying is. Sure they have a high emotional capacity but do you honestly think a chihuahua is more emotionally intelligent than a cow? Or a rat? To me it seems like you don’t fully understand how smart (and not just in problem solving) the animals we eat are.
Why do you find it so incredulous to believe that dogs are actually that much more emotionally intelligent than cows and rats? Sure, cows and rats and pigs and horses can show emotional intelligence, but to believe it’s close to that of dogs is pretty shortsighted.
So you think a chihuahua is more emotionally intelligent than a rat?
Not every dog breed is the same and I bet if we treated cows/pigs/rats the way we do dogs they would be way more bonded to humans than they already are in their fucked-up breed to kill situations.
If you think the situation in the OP post is fucked but wouldn’t bat an eye if the same was done to another animal then Idk what to tell you. It’s all fucked. We essentially torture creatures that feel love, happiness, sadness, that feel it all, just so we can overproduce and toss out what isn’t sold (while also making sure people stay hungry). You only think it’s different because they share a “special” (read:manufactured) bond with humans. Idgaf about them caring for humans more. I give a fuck about their ability to feel period. Dogs don’t feel more love than cows. Dogs feel more love towards humans
I do, and if you don’t think that chihuahuas are capable of being more emotionally intelligent than a rat then you haven’t spent much time around them. A family member of mine had one growing up, and while it was a chatty little shit it was also incredibly emotional.
I agree that there are absolutely differences amongst breeds and that would probably extend to other species as well. I don’t agree with eating animals or raising them to kill them, especially in the ways we do.
I don’t understand what you mean by manufactured, it’s a result of the co-evolution between our two species that’s occured for thousands of years, and by all means natural. I don’t agree that cows can feel more or equally to dogs, I still think that dogs are a more emotional animal and deserve person status. I want to, but I can’t say the same about other domesticated species, including cats. Some other animals that I would consider affording such rights to would be primates, cetaceans, elephants, and octopuses. I haven’t seen the evidence that rats and cows are at that level.
I would argue the same to you about rats and cows. My cousin had a chihuahua, I never said they weren’t emotional.
We specifically bread dogs to be the way they are. They didn’t just evolve along side us, we chose the wolves that were less aggressive and specifically bread them, breeding out the traits we found undesirable over the years and breeding in the mutations we liked. We never did that with any other animal except to make them more dense for eating. That’s what I mean by manufactured, humans (through an extraordinary long amount of time) created the dogs we have now. It’s not like it just happened out of nowhere, we made it happen (I’d actually argue our bond with cats is more natural in that sense).
I do care to listen. Listening is what made me realize how untrue what you’re saying is. Sure they have a high emotional capacity but do you honestly think a chihuahua is more emotionally intelligent than a cow? Or a rat? To me it seems like you don’t fully understand how smart (and not just in problem solving) the animals we eat are.
Why do you find it so incredulous to believe that dogs are actually that much more emotionally intelligent than cows and rats? Sure, cows and rats and pigs and horses can show emotional intelligence, but to believe it’s close to that of dogs is pretty shortsighted.
So you think a chihuahua is more emotionally intelligent than a rat?
Not every dog breed is the same and I bet if we treated cows/pigs/rats the way we do dogs they would be way more bonded to humans than they already are in their fucked-up breed to kill situations.
If you think the situation in the OP post is fucked but wouldn’t bat an eye if the same was done to another animal then Idk what to tell you. It’s all fucked. We essentially torture creatures that feel love, happiness, sadness, that feel it all, just so we can overproduce and toss out what isn’t sold (while also making sure people stay hungry). You only think it’s different because they share a “special” (read:manufactured) bond with humans. Idgaf about them caring for humans more. I give a fuck about their ability to feel period. Dogs don’t feel more love than cows. Dogs feel more love towards humans
I do, and if you don’t think that chihuahuas are capable of being more emotionally intelligent than a rat then you haven’t spent much time around them. A family member of mine had one growing up, and while it was a chatty little shit it was also incredibly emotional.
I agree that there are absolutely differences amongst breeds and that would probably extend to other species as well. I don’t agree with eating animals or raising them to kill them, especially in the ways we do.
I don’t understand what you mean by manufactured, it’s a result of the co-evolution between our two species that’s occured for thousands of years, and by all means natural. I don’t agree that cows can feel more or equally to dogs, I still think that dogs are a more emotional animal and deserve person status. I want to, but I can’t say the same about other domesticated species, including cats. Some other animals that I would consider affording such rights to would be primates, cetaceans, elephants, and octopuses. I haven’t seen the evidence that rats and cows are at that level.
I would argue the same to you about rats and cows. My cousin had a chihuahua, I never said they weren’t emotional.
We specifically bread dogs to be the way they are. They didn’t just evolve along side us, we chose the wolves that were less aggressive and specifically bread them, breeding out the traits we found undesirable over the years and breeding in the mutations we liked. We never did that with any other animal except to make them more dense for eating. That’s what I mean by manufactured, humans (through an extraordinary long amount of time) created the dogs we have now. It’s not like it just happened out of nowhere, we made it happen (I’d actually argue our bond with cats is more natural in that sense).