• @hark
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            Does that mean if you vote for biden then you support genocide?

          • @go_go_gadgetOP
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            -78 months ago

            Except if you’re a moderate or a liberal.

            • theprogressivist
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              88 months ago

              That’s some pretty wild mental gymnastics you got going on there.

            • @Dkarma
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              If Trump was president right now Ukraine would be gone and you’d be partially responsible for making that happen by not getting Biden to 270 electoral college votes.

              Learn how fptp voting works,buddy.

              • @[email protected]
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                the only people responsible for a candidate winning are the people who voted for them…a vote for any other candidate is a vote against Trump

              • Sybil
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                28 months ago

                If Trump was president right now Ukraine would be gone

                this can’t be proven

              • @go_go_gadgetOP
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                08 months ago

                Surely Biden is also somewhat responsible yes?

        • @stanleytweedle
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          78 months ago

          lol- well your taxes still fund everything the US does. Your foot is still on the accelerator but you think the right answer to the trolley problem is ‘let Jesus take the wheel’.

          But yeah, sounds like you in particular probably shouldn’t vote and let more rational people decide what death and destruction your taxes go towards ;)

          • Sybil
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            inaction is a valid and rational choice in the trolley problem

            • @stanleytweedle
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              28 months ago

              Yeah, people that care more about meaningless moral absolution than actual human lives can rationalize anything.

              • Sybil
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                18 months ago

                I’m not willing to kill people. I care about human lives.

            • @stanleytweedle
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              88 months ago

              Cool- thanks again for letting me decide what your taxes pay for.

              • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥
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                “I’ll still be a citizen a but I won’t do the tiniest thing possible in the democracy that may move the needle a little bit because I want to feel righteous”

                Goddamn, these single-issue voters suck.

        • @ReiRose
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          78 months ago

          I would encourage you to consider voting for independent candidate. That way its more “I would vote for you if you weren’t a madman” rather than “I’m someone that doesn’t vote.”

          Hope that makes sense, I’m tired

            • @Garbanzo
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              28 months ago

              A spoiler vote isn’t any worse than a non-vote, but it does have the advantage of sending a message.

            • @[email protected]
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              If for no other reason go vote for the ballot initiatives. You don’t have to vote for a single candidate but the ballot initiatives are essentially direct democracy with tangible outcomes to your community. If you cant support that then you’re wasting your time even thinking about politics and letting all that negativity in your head.

    • @yesman
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      78 months ago

      WTF are you talking about? The Biden admin has been more critical, and gotten more concessions from Israel than any President. I suppose it’s not perfect, but isn’t action better than talking?

      It’s obvious that after Michigan and Wisconsin Biden has bent to Leftest demands, are you even capable of recognizing a W?

      Same with climate change. Biden’s infrastructure bill is the biggest investment in climate we’ve ever had. Did it fix the problem for all time? No, but who else is even moving the ball?

      I swear, If Biden got every American an ice cream, certain leftists would turn lactose intolerant.

      • @hark
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        The Biden admin has been more critical, and gotten more concessions from Israel than any President.

        Such as?

        It’s obvious that after Michigan and Wisconsin Biden has bent to Leftest demands

        Such as?

        Same with climate change. Biden’s infrastructure bill is the biggest investment in climate we’ve ever had. Did it fix the problem for all time? No, but who else is even moving the ball?

        It’s the biggest investment in climate when compared to the pathetic inaction by previous administrations, but most of it is still throwing money at companies and hoping they do the right thing. Even the evil empire known as China, which is a second-rate economic power, has done far more to combat climate change than the US. It’s pathetic.

        I swear, If Biden got every American an ice cream, certain leftists would turn lactose intolerant.

        If biden shat in your mouth, you’d be telling us all that it was the most delicious ice cream of all time.

      • @go_go_gadgetOP
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        It’s obvious that after Michigan and Wisconsin Biden has bent to Leftest demands, are you even capable of recognizing a W?

        Our votes are worth more than a few empty threats. Stop providing weapons. Make a material compromise not symbolic measures.

        EDIT: The down votes make me laugh. If you’re going to blame us for any loss in 2024 and that loss constitutes the end of democracy our votes are worth a lot. I won’t apologize for recognizing that. Moderate and liberal voters are too pathetic to make a choice here. Make material compromises with us or lose to MAGA. Simple stuff really.

    • @[email protected]
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      Arguably, Dems losing seats during Obama’s tenure was due to their lust for chasing rich corporate donors instead of working to materially improve the lives of working class citizens.