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    26 months ago

    Ah thank you so much @PugJesus.

    I stared at the meme for ages before reading this comment and my ad hoc theory was that being good at sculpture had somehow become devalued as sinful by Christianity!

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      26 months ago

      Always happy to share a little of the trivia I’ve picked up over the years!

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        26 months ago

        It’s great! Something about idealisations is fascinating in itself, the various things cultures focus on.

        Arcadius looks suspiciously like Elizabeth I.

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          6 months ago

          Happened in coins too!

          Coin depicting Vespasian (Pagan, Principate era, ~70 AD)

          Coin depicting Caracalla (Pagan, Crisis of the Third Century, ~210 AD)

          Coin depicting Constantine I (Christian, Late Empire, ~320 AD)

          Coin depicting Julian the Apostate (Pagan, Late Empire, ~363 AD)

          Coin depicting Valentinian III (Christian, Late Empire, ~455 AD)

          My favorite is Constantine I. It’s idealized to the point where it’s almost anime-esque, where it’s clearly a representation of a human being, but just a representation - while earlier coin depictions made the Emperor look like someone you could reach out and touch - a real person, not just an abstract holder of ultimate power.

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            26 months ago

            Oh that’s fascinating. Yeah I can actually imagine Constantine I in a Speed Racer style cartoon.

            Valentinian III looks like a Ty big eyes toy. Were these huge eyes meant to symbolise being wise, or were they an early example of surveillance theater?

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              26 months ago

              Heavenly vision and wisdom, I think. Though I wouldn’t be surprised if “THE EMPEROR IS WATCHING YOU” was a motivation too.