With all the current discussion about the threat that Instagram Threads has on the Fediverse and that article about how Google Embrace Extend Extinguished XMPP, I was left very confused, since that was the first time I’ve heard that Gchat supported XMPP or what XMPP actually is, and I’ve had my personal Gmail since beta (no, don’t ask for it), and before then, everybody was using AOL/MSN Messenger to talk with each other online. I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a single person who started using Gchat as an XMPP client.

Instead of a plot where Google took over XMPP userbase via EEE, it just seem to me more like XMPP was a niche protocol that very few hardcore enthusiasts used, and then Google tried to add support for it in their product, but ultimately decided it wasn’t worth the development effort to support a feature that very few of their users actually used and abandoned it in typical Google fashion.

So, to prove my point, how many people have used XMPP here, and how many people here haven’t?

  • Nine
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    2111 months ago

    I LOVE XMPP!

    I’m still upset that it didn’t take off like email did. It is/was the best federated instant messaging platform ever.

    However with things like discord and to a lesser extent matrix, I don’t see it ever making a comeback and being widely used. I think google dropping it and going full hangouts was the final nail in its coffin 😞

    • @mvirts
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      411 months ago

      Not with that attitude! Get a server set up ! :P

      • Nine
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        311 months ago

        Lol yeah, but why do that when https://conversations.im/ is doing an amazing job of making great software and running an amazing service? Plus with super easy and simple E2E it’s pretty damn secure and private!

        • @mvirts
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          111 months ago

          Lol I did a double take when I saw a us bank account and routing number provided for donations :P

          Looks legit to me!!

          • Nine
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            311 months ago

            Yeah, They offer XMPP hosting and other services. Having a bank account setup to collect donations and what would make it easier for B2B transactions.

            Given all the scams and stuff these days I can see where that would raise some concerns though.

            I’ve been using them for nearly a decade. I think they’re one of the only places around that host XMPP like that too.

    • @[email protected]
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      210 months ago

      XMPP is far superior to matrix for one on one and group messaging, imo. Matrix is useful for communities, as you said, like discord is.