The problems you described are the result of the oil/gas suppression. We’ve had no issues adding thousands of gas stations, why would it be so hard to set up EV infrastructure? It wouldn’t be - the industry just chose not to.
As for green fear mongering, you don’t even need to look at climate change to see the benefits of green energy. Fossil fuel is dirty and creates tons and tons of pollution - not just emissions as discussed. So what’s the downside to green energy if climate scientists are wrong? Cleaner air? Oil barons losing their power over government? It’s win-win. But still, there’s decades of evidence on the harm caused by fossil fuels. The other side of the debate says that not all of the predictions have come true as if none of them have come true. I don’t think the two are really comparable at all - it’s people wanting a healthier world vs people who only care about making money.
Pumped hydro and sand are large-scale solutions so you can’t really buy them yourself. They’re for replacing industrial energy storage, way too big for a single household. Check this link out for more info on the latter. For personal use, “traditional” batteries are used.
We already cut down more trees than we plant. If that solution was profitable, they’d already be doing it and we wouldn’t even be discussing green energy right now
Not much can be done about the byproducts of fossil fuel aside from burning less of it
Saying “solar pollutes so why bother?” Is a bit asinine as it ignores the amount of pollution each causes. I don’t have the hard numbers but I’d imagine the pollution from producing enough solar panels to replace a gas power plant is significantly lower than pollution caused by one month of burning said gas.
The non-fuel uses im referring to are things like coal for making steel and some plastics. There’s been a lot of progress in making plastic from plants but I haven’t seen anything with coal. Steel is will remain extremely important for a long time.
why would it be so hard to set up EV infrastrcture.
fair, but I’d envision it being different. EV charging stations hook up to a power plant somewhere, or could to a big local battery. gas stations can be more flexible seemingly as they just can be a portable tank of gas basically.
The big problem I think is green energy isn’t efficient or as powerful of a resource at present. So it requires monetary or energy losses to make use of green energy? Are there also some unknown maintenance costs? The right seems to argue green energy is a net loss
people wanting a healthier world vs people who only care about making money
that sounds a little… limited in vision. the rejoinder is probably people think that the other side that’s for green energy is impractical and unprofitable. In fairness this reminds me that a lot of EVs seem poorly designed at present, in my view almost like they’re designed to make the technology fail in the public’s eye. Like say someone is a rightwing truck driver. Electric trucks are probably prohibitively expensive. So advocating for a trucker to use an unaffordable EV truck would seem harmful and impractical. This leads to dropping support for “green tech” that isn’t ready yet.
hydro and sand are large-scale solutions so you can’t really buy them yourself
oh… well again this becomes impractical for consumers.
For personal use, “traditional” batteries are used
Do you mean not green then? If true it would again sound like green tech isn’t there to be practical yet
The problems you described are the result of the oil/gas suppression. We’ve had no issues adding thousands of gas stations, why would it be so hard to set up EV infrastructure? It wouldn’t be - the industry just chose not to.
As for green fear mongering, you don’t even need to look at climate change to see the benefits of green energy. Fossil fuel is dirty and creates tons and tons of pollution - not just emissions as discussed. So what’s the downside to green energy if climate scientists are wrong? Cleaner air? Oil barons losing their power over government? It’s win-win. But still, there’s decades of evidence on the harm caused by fossil fuels. The other side of the debate says that not all of the predictions have come true as if none of them have come true. I don’t think the two are really comparable at all - it’s people wanting a healthier world vs people who only care about making money.
Pumped hydro and sand are large-scale solutions so you can’t really buy them yourself. They’re for replacing industrial energy storage, way too big for a single household. Check this link out for more info on the latter. For personal use, “traditional” batteries are used.
We already cut down more trees than we plant. If that solution was profitable, they’d already be doing it and we wouldn’t even be discussing green energy right now
Not much can be done about the byproducts of fossil fuel aside from burning less of it
Saying “solar pollutes so why bother?” Is a bit asinine as it ignores the amount of pollution each causes. I don’t have the hard numbers but I’d imagine the pollution from producing enough solar panels to replace a gas power plant is significantly lower than pollution caused by one month of burning said gas.
The non-fuel uses im referring to are things like coal for making steel and some plastics. There’s been a lot of progress in making plastic from plants but I haven’t seen anything with coal. Steel is will remain extremely important for a long time.
fair, but I’d envision it being different. EV charging stations hook up to a power plant somewhere, or could to a big local battery. gas stations can be more flexible seemingly as they just can be a portable tank of gas basically.
well have you looked up “green energy is a scam”? Here’s one article, curious about your thoughts on it: https://corbettreport.substack.com/p/green-energy-is-a-scam-it-isnt-meant
The big problem I think is green energy isn’t efficient or as powerful of a resource at present. So it requires monetary or energy losses to make use of green energy? Are there also some unknown maintenance costs? The right seems to argue green energy is a net loss
that sounds a little… limited in vision. the rejoinder is probably people think that the other side that’s for green energy is impractical and unprofitable. In fairness this reminds me that a lot of EVs seem poorly designed at present, in my view almost like they’re designed to make the technology fail in the public’s eye. Like say someone is a rightwing truck driver. Electric trucks are probably prohibitively expensive. So advocating for a trucker to use an unaffordable EV truck would seem harmful and impractical. This leads to dropping support for “green tech” that isn’t ready yet.
oh… well again this becomes impractical for consumers.
Do you mean not green then? If true it would again sound like green tech isn’t there to be practical yet