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    77 months ago

    That seems like a very idealist understanding of culture; do you think misogyny is the result of bad people with bad ideas doing bad things, as opposed to the result of material conditions?

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      37 months ago

      do you think misogyny is the result of bad people with bad ideas doing bad things, as opposed to the result of material conditions?

      Where do you think those material conditions that promote things like misogyny come from? (No, it’s not human nature, a species where the men hate the women is not going to succeed evolutionarily without rape being the primary method of reproduction) Not every specific act of misogyny is bad people, but misogyny is common because of the world misogynists/racists/dominators made that influences all of us.

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        Where do you think those material conditions that promote things like misogyny come from?

        The relationship with the means of production; in cultures where men inherit property, you get misogyny.

        In the societies that didn’t have property or male inheritance, you see much more equitable cultures.

        No, it’s not human nature

        Yeah no, I’m not one of those. I’m just strongly of the belief that culture molds itself around the mode of production, as opposed to individual people and ideas.

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          47 months ago

          I’m just strongly of the belief that culture molds itself around the mode of production,

          But it’s a cycle, not an arrow. The modes of production are build by the culture which is influenced by the mop and around it goes. Those with some of the most ambition to affect this cycle tend to be the misogynist type and so culture tends toward misogynist.

          Part of why is probably because women tended to get stuck caring for young ones (whether they wanted to or not) while men went out and changed culture and built the mop.