Can you give us some enough examples of “western media that is more than America” calling out the genocide with the right weight and not playing the “we don’t think what you are doing is wrong but we have to save face to retain the illusion of credibility” game at the moment? Even BBC that first said it wouldn’t take part in sided labeling of groups openly said they caved in to the pressure of calling Hamas terrorists in their news about them, all the while Israel was bombing hospitals, housing units, aid delivery locations and trucks, ambulances, children and teens moving back their houses for food, shooting elderly people pleading for their lives?
Have you noticed how the articles keep mentioning the Oct 7 first, something that happened 6 months earlier, then goes on the passively call “Palestinian deaths” and not tie to Israel directly, in their titles at least? That is what me and all the people are criticizing the western media about. Direct perpetrators and blame is pointed when it is Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, Houthis, or any other Muslim population, and indirect, passive voice is used when it is something the western politicians support. Even goes as far to picture only structural damage rather than how hundreds of people are found killed by Israel’s unproportionate, deliberate and zealos attacks most of the time.
Have you noticed how the articles keep mentioning the Oct 7 first, something that happened 6 months earlier, then goes on the passively call “Palestinian deaths” and not tie to Israel directly, in their titles at least?
I have not actually, the first link starts with:
Life remains dire for displaced Palestinians in Rafah, a city near Gaza’s border with Egypt. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has now set a date for a planned offensive.
October 7th is mentioned in the latter half, as context as to why Rafah has so many people there currently. And it also mentions how Israel’s military told the civilians to evacuate to the south where it would be safer, but:
Rafah was supposed to be a safer place, but it never was, said Loay Fareed, who has been displaced multiple times with his family since the war began.
“There are bombings almost every day, and the frequency is increasing every day,” Fareed, 46, told DW via telephone from Rafah.
If you want the finger pointing directly:
Israel’s siege of the enclave has led to the onset of famine, particularly in northern Gaza, according to aid agencies and the United Nations.
The second link mentions October 7th because it’s literally giving an overview of the state of the region in the past 6 months. And it is literally showing pictures of dead Palestinian children.
The third link does not mention October at all.
The last link mentions October at the end for a 6 month statistic where it is said by name that Israel killed Palestinians:
At least 29,782 Palestinians have been killed and 70,043 injured in Israeli strikes on Gaza since 7 October, the Gaza health ministry said. In the past 24 hours, 90 Palestinians were killed and 164 injured in Israeli strikes, the ministry said.
“The Israeli government is starving Gaza’s 2.3 million Palestinians, putting them in even more peril than before the World Court’s binding order,” Omar Shakir, the Israel and Palestine director at Human Rights Watch, said.
“The Israeli government has simply ignored the court’s ruling, and in some ways even intensified its repression, including further blocking lifesaving aid.”
And this is just stuff I found after scrolling the above media websites for like 10 mins in total. There is no monolithic “western media” entity that repeats the same lines as almost all ‘criticism of western media’ implies. Some are objective, some are biased to a one specific side, some to another, some are just crap.
But whatever the case, it is demonstrably not true that no popular media in the west is reporting on the massive killings and destruction performed by Israel, that they all just ignore or downplay it.
Any attacks from the other side rarely has direct finger pointing to their background as Israel’s run of Gaza as open-air concentration camp, which it has been for quite some time. I’m not going to go in to egg-or-the-chickem of the whole decades long conflict, even tho I can discuss it, but the background is almost never direct as “IDF using unproportionate artillery, airstrike, drone, tank munitions on civilian concentrations” when it comes to Israel’s actions. Whether in title or as context, most if not all western articles basing the situation with the start as unprovoked Hamas attack is absolute double standards in showing recency, relevance and intensity.
On the finger pointing:
How is “large-scale offensive” not any distanced and cold, simply unbiased as all new should be? And what is “siege” anything but downplaying the aid blockade, blockade against leaving, bombing anyone trying to leave, bombing both aid-seekers and aid givers, shelling and bombing any and all buildings whether there are any confirmed or unconfirmed civilian/Hamas population inside?
I agree that western media isn’t monolithic. But even so, they are mostly aligned together when it comes to applying double standards in distanced reporting and hot-headed reporting, frequency, background, further context and speculation depending on the groups involved. Hence the hypocrisy. It may not be as blatant and amateur as some other media does or did, but it is nevertheless sinister. Whether completely but intent, or being pushed to do so by pressure.
France24 is the only foreign news channel we get over here in MiidleOfNowhere South Africa (because reasons), and I’ve been watching their coverage of Gaza with interest. If their “news” is to be believed, the bombs falling on Gaza and the bullets raining down on Palestinians trying to get food from aid trucks is spontaneously created out of thin air and not launched or fired by anyone.
Reuters and the Guardian, two primary Zionist outlets that have massively pushed israeli propaganda over the last 6 months and are famous for their favourable language for israel…
That’s your source? Here is The Guardian today filled to the brim with propaganda. "Iran attacks, warns israel about “retaliation”. Classic Zionist reversal of cause and effect. Somehow Iran is the party destabilizing the region now.
And Reuters of course features videos of the main IDF Hasabara spreader just talking. No video footage of the missiles. Exactly what we need to see shove that propaganda in my face baby.
It’s neat how ‘western media’ is more than America. You know that, right?
Yes. What is your point?
Can you give us some enough examples of “western media that is more than America” calling out the genocide with the right weight and not playing the “we don’t think what you are doing is wrong but we have to save face to retain the illusion of credibility” game at the moment? Even BBC that first said it wouldn’t take part in sided labeling of groups openly said they caved in to the pressure of calling Hamas terrorists in their news about them, all the while Israel was bombing hospitals, housing units, aid delivery locations and trucks, ambulances, children and teens moving back their houses for food, shooting elderly people pleading for their lives?
Fucking hypocrites you all.
Here you go:
https://www.dw.com/en/little-escape-for-rafah-residents-amid-plans-for-offensive/a-68729764?mobileApp=true
https://www.reuters.com/pictures/pictures-six-months-war-israel-gaza-2024-04-05/
https://www.reuters.com/pictures/israeli-troops-exit-gazas-shifa-hospital-leaving-rubble-bodies-2024-04-01/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/feb/26/middle-east-crisis-live-gaza-israel-netanyahu-ceasefire-deal-hamas-rafah
Have you noticed how the articles keep mentioning the Oct 7 first, something that happened 6 months earlier, then goes on the passively call “Palestinian deaths” and not tie to Israel directly, in their titles at least? That is what me and all the people are criticizing the western media about. Direct perpetrators and blame is pointed when it is Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, Houthis, or any other Muslim population, and indirect, passive voice is used when it is something the western politicians support. Even goes as far to picture only structural damage rather than how hundreds of people are found killed by Israel’s unproportionate, deliberate and zealos attacks most of the time.
I have not actually, the first link starts with:
October 7th is mentioned in the latter half, as context as to why Rafah has so many people there currently. And it also mentions how Israel’s military told the civilians to evacuate to the south where it would be safer, but:
If you want the finger pointing directly:
The second link mentions October 7th because it’s literally giving an overview of the state of the region in the past 6 months. And it is literally showing pictures of dead Palestinian children.
The third link does not mention October at all.
The last link mentions October at the end for a 6 month statistic where it is said by name that Israel killed Palestinians:
And this is just stuff I found after scrolling the above media websites for like 10 mins in total. There is no monolithic “western media” entity that repeats the same lines as almost all ‘criticism of western media’ implies. Some are objective, some are biased to a one specific side, some to another, some are just crap.
But whatever the case, it is demonstrably not true that no popular media in the west is reporting on the massive killings and destruction performed by Israel, that they all just ignore or downplay it.
Mentioning the Oct 7 as background:
Any attacks from the other side rarely has direct finger pointing to their background as Israel’s run of Gaza as open-air concentration camp, which it has been for quite some time. I’m not going to go in to egg-or-the-chickem of the whole decades long conflict, even tho I can discuss it, but the background is almost never direct as “IDF using unproportionate artillery, airstrike, drone, tank munitions on civilian concentrations” when it comes to Israel’s actions. Whether in title or as context, most if not all western articles basing the situation with the start as unprovoked Hamas attack is absolute double standards in showing recency, relevance and intensity.
On the finger pointing:
How is “large-scale offensive” not any distanced and cold, simply unbiased as all new should be? And what is “siege” anything but downplaying the aid blockade, blockade against leaving, bombing anyone trying to leave, bombing both aid-seekers and aid givers, shelling and bombing any and all buildings whether there are any confirmed or unconfirmed civilian/Hamas population inside?
I agree that western media isn’t monolithic. But even so, they are mostly aligned together when it comes to applying double standards in distanced reporting and hot-headed reporting, frequency, background, further context and speculation depending on the groups involved. Hence the hypocrisy. It may not be as blatant and amateur as some other media does or did, but it is nevertheless sinister. Whether completely but intent, or being pushed to do so by pressure.
France24 is the only foreign news channel we get over here in MiidleOfNowhere South Africa (because reasons), and I’ve been watching their coverage of Gaza with interest. If their “news” is to be believed, the bombs falling on Gaza and the bullets raining down on Palestinians trying to get food from aid trucks is spontaneously created out of thin air and not launched or fired by anyone.
Western mainstream media is as hasbara as fuck.
Reuters and the Guardian, two primary Zionist outlets that have massively pushed israeli propaganda over the last 6 months and are famous for their favourable language for israel…
That’s your source? Here is The Guardian today filled to the brim with propaganda. "Iran attacks, warns israel about “retaliation”. Classic Zionist reversal of cause and effect. Somehow Iran is the party destabilizing the region now.
And Reuters of course features videos of the main IDF Hasabara spreader just talking. No video footage of the missiles. Exactly what we need to see shove that propaganda in my face baby.