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Use this thread for general daily football discussion.
This thread can also be used to discuss Transfer rumours and to post Tier 4 sources.
@nuggsy @GunnersBot 100٪ agree. Its like the Chelsea cup final in 2017 never happened in some people’s minds. He had Costas number when it mattered. He lost his head against spurs but he was a very capable player on his day.
@Beedge@mstdn.social Yeah, I don’t know where it’s suddenly come from. I think it’s easy to forget what he did for the club during his time. I don’t think he was the best defender, by all means, but he put in a shift when needed often.
I wondered if the criticism was similar to why Xhaka was criticised at times. He had some really bad moments, but he could have had a fairly average game, but he would often be used as a scapegoat for a poor result.
@nuggsy well said.
I think towards the end of the Wenger era the crowd needed a scapegoat to vent their frustration, Holding, Dhaka or Wenger himself. That kind of carried through until Arteta got the ball rolling again.
Holding didn’t deserve it and neither did Xhaka
Neither did Wenger. We just got unlucky with the stadium timing.
@Astrealix yeah, there is a certain class of Arsenal “supporter” that ill never forgive for the way they turned on Wenger.
His performance in the 2017 final should afford him a lot of latitude alone. Your are right, he had Diego Costa in his pocket the whole time. And considering how Costa had mentally destroyed some of our other defenders over the years, that alone was very impressive. That guy was a right fucker for our defenders to play against. But Rob flipped the script on him and had him mentally spinning in circles.