This would be amazing for anyone heading out to the bays or Wellington Airport, no intersections or lights to worry about, and it would make life so much easier for the CBD as well, not having so much through traffic in the CBD.
This would be amazing for anyone heading out to the bays or Wellington Airport, no intersections or lights to worry about, and it would make life so much easier for the CBD as well, not having so much through traffic in the CBD.
This is being explored as an alternative to a second Terrace and Mt Vic tunnels, and sounds like just an idea for now.
We desperately need to improve access to that area though, getting out to Miramar, Seatoun and Titahi Bay is a nightmare at times, including on weekends.
And public transport can only do so much, it’s not an option for everyone.
It’s not an option because we neglect it to the point it’s not usable for a lot of trips.
That doesn’t mean improvements aren’t possible, and they would help free up capacity on the existing road network. Roads are such a poor investment at this point, especially ones like these
Can I use it for when I take my kayak out there? 5.5m long boat shouldn’t take up too much space in the bus, right?
Sorry, not sure how investing in more PT options would require you to take a kayak on the bus.
That’s not what I asked you.
I’m pointing out why I won’t be taking the bus if I’m heading out that way.
So then don’t, I didn’t say it must replace every single trip for it to have value
The whole point of my reply was pointing out why public transport isn’t an option for me, and why, no matter how good it gets, we will need to upgrade our road infrastructure eventually.
Absolutely nobody has said it won’t help.
I think their point is that we don’t necessarily need to upgrade road infrastructure. The majority of the people on roads could be using public transport.
Not the ones carrying kayaks or plumbing vans or disabled people that can’t get to a bus or train stop. But imagine how much better traffic would be for those people if all the other people were on public transport!
Thank you. Doesn’t even have to be the majority, there’s studies out there that suggest moving as little as 10-15% of trips out of cars can take traffic from jammed up to free flowing. Although the more the better, motorways are expensive as hell and car dependency creates all sorts of wider problems.
Given what a mess Wellington traffic is, especially getting in and out of the city, I don’t think many people are driving at the moment when public transport is an option.
I honestly think most of the people who could use PT are already on it, at least in and out of the city.
It’s not an option because I have a van full of tools, not because of the quality of the service.
I swear, people like you must think everyone in the country works in an office.
Yes, we could certainly improve public transport in Wellington, but as I said, it’s simply not an option for many people.
If others are in a bus there’s more space for you.
No shit.
I know this is a hard concept to grasp, but there are people out there who are not yourself who, if the option is there, will leave their cars at home meaning the roads are less congested overall.
I never said there weren’t. What I did say, using very small words, is that no matter how good public transport is, not everyone can use it.
It’s a tough concept to grasp, it would seem.
And what I said was not everyone needs to use it to benefit from it because unlike just blowing billions on more roads, it reduces congestion overall instead of adding to it.
Anyway on the tunnel, fantasy at best, Tory grift at worst, probably both
You’re arguing a point nobody is denying, you do understand that right?
What, you’ve done nothing but deny it
When have I said that?
What kind of an idiotic argument is “not everyone will use it”. Who was claiming that every single human being in the city would be using it?