• @SchmidtGenetics
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      Which is inefficient and terrible design, that’s why it didn’t survive to the new technology.

      • @accideath
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        139 months ago

        Sure, it’s inefficient. But it’s more cozy. Also, those lights are usually dimmable, giving the halogen lights an even warmer colour temperature. Together with the indirect light, they were great for bedrooms or living rooms, when you don’t want or don’t need harsh ceiling light. Of course, no one would use them, when they’re trying to work on something or read or something like that. Home lighting isn’t always about the most efficient way to light a room.

        I for example still prefer indirect light in my living room, most of the time. Sure, it’s LED by now, but it’s still way nicer to let the light bounce off the wall while I’m just chilling. And if I actually need more light, the ceiling lamp still exists…

        Or how would you propose to create a cozy, soft and comfortable lighting atmosphere?

        • @SchmidtGenetics
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          Or how would you propose to create a cozy, soft and comfortable lighting atmosphere?

          Proper installed lighting? Like codes require in most places? There’s even lux requirements for decades in code. It’s just modern bulbs don’t meet the requirements that old receptacles used, so now people come up with excuses to use portable lighting instead of proper installed lighting.

          Maybe time for a reno to use your modern devices correctly.

          I will say, that some places do have a severe lack of code implementation and/or enforcement, so maybe this partly the issue. Non code compliant lighting to begin with.

          • @accideath
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            79 months ago

            Here in Germany in most houses and apartments, rooms come with wiring for one, rarely two ceiling lamps. That’s it. If you’re fancy, there’s maybe wiring for one or two wall mounted lamps, if it’s a particularly big room. In the average room, if your lighting is properly installed you have one sufficiently bright ceiling lamp (one lamp, not necessarily just one bulb) to illuminate the room to a good brightness level. It’s not cozy but it’s bright.

            Now tell me, what should I do, to make it more cozy, that doesn’t involve laying new wiring into a concrete wall?

            Also, when has code compliant lighting ever been designed to be cozy? The regulations for primary lighting here in Germany are designed to provide sufficiently bright and pleasant light, illuminating the whole room. That’s it. There aren’t even any real codes for home lighting, only for work spaces, which do not need to be cozy but safe and comfortable.

            For home lighting there only exist unofficial recommendations, which, btw, usually include a recommendations for floor lamps and indirect lighting in living- and bedrooms.

      • @[email protected]
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        79 months ago

        Direct light and soft light are useful for different purposes. If you’re trying to efficiently light up a room, ceiling light may be useful, but for e.g. photography, you can usually get better results by using a diffuser, and this shape allows reusing the ceiling as the diffuser. Plus nostalgic value.

        • @SchmidtGenetics
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          9 months ago

          Just because someone sells something and people buy it, doesn’t mean it’s a great design or there isn’t better options.

          Just like essential oils.

          Everyone commenting is saying how they need multiple of them, just buy a single better light.

          • @[email protected]
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            09 months ago

            Essential fucking oils?! What is going on in your head? I was just refuting your bullshit take that they didn’t “survive”.