I’m sure they are working on a youtube messaging app behind the scenes.

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    We need better alternatives

    Also YT premium is not a good solution as it does nothing for privacy

    • @[email protected]
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      Video is nearly impossible to host in a sustainable way. The bandwidth usage is among the most expensive things you can host. The only way you’re getting something better than YouTube is if it’s tax funded somehow.

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        Public libraries should host the peoples internet. As a service, not to generate tax dollars, not to break even.

        Jumping from platform to platform is just delaying the enshitification.

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        Nebula is very sustainable.

        The 20mbit bandwidth of a 4k video might have been a lot 10 years ago, but it’s child’s play now.

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          Nebula works for now because it still has nowhere near the amount of videos being served and uploaded per minute than YouTube. Having to cache videos in servers all around the globe takes up significant cost too.

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          I also pay for Nebula.

          I’m fine paying for a service, but I’m not going to pretend that it is a YouTube equivalent.

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            That’s probably true, but economic sustainability is what makes privacy sustainability possible.

            Youtube is such a mess because it has to fight so hard to make ads work, which is unsustainable.

            Nebula makes its money through monthly fees and thus has no incentives to track users beyond providing a better service.

            Nebula being essentially a creators’ co-operative organization also helps with the sustainable governence side, too.

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      Also YT premium is not a good solution as it does nothing for privacy

      Neither is accessing any Google service in the first place, ReVanced or not.

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        Using third party clients does. Think invidious or piped with apps like Libretube

        • @woelkchen
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          Using third party clients does. Think invidious or piped with apps like Libretube

          It requires a proxy (Piped acts as proxy). A 3rd party client in itself doesm not because the video files are still streamed off Google servers.

            • @woelkchen
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              Still good for privacy

              No, non-proxied clients don’t do shit for privacy. Accessing the video streams directly off Google servers is enough to be tracked,

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                But there isn’t any non-free code involved so all they have is your IP address at the time and what video you watched. That’s it.

                Not as great as a public proxy but it is way better than using the proprietary spyware

    • @LordKitsuna
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      Piped exists and has continued to work smoothly for me this whole time. There are many public instances but running your own is best

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        Invidious and piped are under attack by YouTube. We need YouTube alternatives.

    • @colonial
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      We need better alternatives

      We’d need a quantum leap in storage and bandwidth first - orders of magnitude better, if we want competing to be financially sane 😮‍💨

      Maybe when Google is (hopefully eventually) shattered into a million pieces by some US judge, YouTube could be splintered into several smaller companies, each with some portion of the infrastructure and channels/videos - thus forcing competition. Vaguely similar to the Bell divestiture.