i can remember back in the late 90/early 2000, that the right wingers pushed hard into the goth and metal scene here, looking for new recruits. it definitely felt like a targeted approach, and they did the same with the techno scene before (where they were mostly thrown out). they had more success in the folk scene, but they slowly gained ground over the last years. this sucks :-(
They didn’t realize that most of the metal scene has connection with the punk scene, and the punk scene is full of anarchists and anti-fascists. It’s weird how much success they had with the country music scene.
I was gonna say, I don’t think metal has a higher rate of nazis. You look at country and you basically have to accept they’re all MAGAts (another reason to just avoid country). I think most people in metal are pretty progressive, that’s why they’re in metal. Honestly Dero Goi is a great example: he jumped down a conservative rabbit hole and left metal.
If anything, it’s just that the nazis are always a vocal minority and when they’re into metal it’s some confirmation bias for close minded people who don’t like metal.
No, the issue is that metal has a lot of iconography which outright attracts Nazis and the like (e.g. heavy use of crosses, mentions of war and sometimes glorification of ancestry, viking culture, classically western icons like medieval knights and the Crusades, etc).
We have to push really hard against their co-opting of our symbols if we don’t want “Skinheads: Metalic Boogaloo” to become a thing.
Going back ten years to people trying to explain away Kanye’s BLKKK SKKN HEAD by pointing to the brief moment of time where skinheads weren’t all Nazis is pretty funny now though.
I dunno anything about the Kanye incident, but skinheads started and there continue to be non racist skinheads everywhere. It wasn’t a brief period of time at all.
i can remember back in the late 90/early 2000, that the right wingers pushed hard into the goth and metal scene here, looking for new recruits. it definitely felt like a targeted approach, and they did the same with the techno scene before (where they were mostly thrown out). they had more success in the folk scene, but they slowly gained ground over the last years. this sucks :-(
They didn’t realize that most of the metal scene has connection with the punk scene, and the punk scene is full of anarchists and anti-fascists. It’s weird how much success they had with the country music scene.
Who would have thought that country music, which originated in the South, would be so receptive to white nationalism??
Pre-9/11 and Toby Keith a lot of country music was anti-establishment and anti-fascist.
Some, but for every Phil Ochs there was a Marty Robbins.
Or even outright anarchist.
I was gonna say, I don’t think metal has a higher rate of nazis. You look at country and you basically have to accept they’re all MAGAts (another reason to just avoid country). I think most people in metal are pretty progressive, that’s why they’re in metal. Honestly Dero Goi is a great example: he jumped down a conservative rabbit hole and left metal.
If anything, it’s just that the nazis are always a vocal minority and when they’re into metal it’s some confirmation bias for close minded people who don’t like metal.
No, the issue is that metal has a lot of iconography which outright attracts Nazis and the like (e.g. heavy use of crosses, mentions of war and sometimes glorification of ancestry, viking culture, classically western icons like medieval knights and the Crusades, etc).
We have to push really hard against their co-opting of our symbols if we don’t want “Skinheads: Metalic Boogaloo” to become a thing.
Who could forget the absolute renaissance of ultra-nationalist country songs that inundated the country after 9/11?
I was practically begging for some Big and Rich just to get people to stop playing that Ted Nugget slop, by the time I was out of college.
Well, they had plenty of success with skinheads before…
Going back ten years to people trying to explain away Kanye’s BLKKK SKKN HEAD by pointing to the brief moment of time where skinheads weren’t all Nazis is pretty funny now though.
I dunno anything about the Kanye incident, but skinheads started and there continue to be non racist skinheads everywhere. It wasn’t a brief period of time at all.
Sure bro
Try reading, bro
Lol, sure bro
Ah got it. You’re just a shitty troll
Ok buddy skinhead