• @someguy3
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    28 days ago

    The definition of sentience is really low, it’s basically the ability to have sensations and react. The most basic organisms can be argued to have that. The definition is not what I used for most of my life, which is higher intelligence.

    • @yokonzo
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      2728 days ago

      That technically is the definition of sentience, basically consciousness with the ability to react and have awareness of your surroundings. I think the word your looking for is sapience, which is the ability to contemplate and act productively using knowledge and reasoning

      • @HauntedCupcake
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        I think jumping spiders fit into the sapience category then. They’re known to learn different prey types and change their hunting strategies accordingly, even learning typical behaviour and being able to pick out sick/injured insects and figuring out they don’t need to go full stealth.

        They’ve even been observed to enter REM like dreaming states, where it’s assumed they process a lot of the visual information they picked up throughout the day.

        So basically every animal higher than the jumping spider might fit into the sapience category, which is kinda wild to think about

        • Miss Brainfarts
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          Jumping spiders also seem to be genuinely curious about things. Anytime I want to take a photo of one, it stops, looks at the camera, jumps on it to check it out, and then leaves. Kinda like I’d take a look at a new product on display on a supermarket shelf

        • @yokonzo
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          427 days ago

          Oh great, even more reason for me to be terrified of spiders

          • @HauntedCupcake
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            1027 days ago

            Jumping spiders are little dears, all of them are harmless to people and don’t spin webs. Very polite guys

          • @systemglitch
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            427 days ago

            Naw you’re fine. If you give it a chance you can even learn to find them cute.

            • @yokonzo
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              226 days ago

              Reeeeaaaaally doubt it

              • Gloomy
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                226 days ago

                Look at it, it’s cuts as hell. (I’ll hide it behind a spoiler tag. A phobia is a phobia, after all)

                spoiler

      • @someguy3
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        428 days ago

        Well that’s the word we should use when discussing animal intelligence then.

        • @[email protected]
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          127 days ago

          It is. We say sapience when discussing intelligence, and sentience when discussing consciousness.

    • @RampantParanoia2365
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      1027 days ago

      Yeah, the word they’re looking for is Sapient. Which is pretty surprising considering it’s their word.

    • @[email protected]
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      27 days ago

      Higher intelligence is sapience. Whereas sentience means having a perspective and being aware.

      E: oops someone beat me to it

    • @Sanctus
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      328 days ago

      sentience
      noun

      1. The quality or state of being sentient; consciousness.
      2. Feeling as distinguished from perception or thought.
        3.The quality or state of being sentient; esp., the quality or state of having sensation.

      I think it is irresponsible wether these creatures are sentient or not. We never know when we’ll cut enough threads to make an ecosystem come undone.

    • @[email protected]
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      27 days ago

      So a child isn’t sentient in your opinion? I’ve always understood sentience as the ability to have experiences, memories, and emotion (which is different from the paper’s definition, that was my layman definition).