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    one could argue that the Russian revolution failed after they beat back the white army when the Bolsheviks killed all the communists, because killing communists is all the USSR ever really did, except the one time it killed communists by grinding Nazis into a fine icy paste with them, which admittedly was pretty cool.

    one could also argue that theres math about centralization that shows you necessarily get worse information to a central source, even with 0 inefficiency, because physical limits and compression and junk, and that a highly centralized body literally cannot make good decisions on purpose at that kind of scale. but then the tankies would stop cuddling their body pillows long enough to threaten to kill you.

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      Ah but anarchism can’t work! Nobody with a back so weak to knives could ever form a stable society. /s

      The Bolsheviks handed spain to Franco by utilizing the same strategy they used in the Russian civil war, ally with the anarchists and syndicalists right up until they’re sure they’ll win then kill everyone who isn’t on board with Bolshevism. We’ve learned our lesson, you don’t succeed by dying for the revolution, you succeed by making the people who will stop you die for it.

      So to the neo-Bolsheviks, how about y’all put your books down and march in front of the other communists for once. Don’t worry, we’ve learned how to do logistics from running mutual aid networks, leftist print shops, unions, etc.

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        oh dont try to cite history personal experience or math at them; that’s idealist, doing your revolution in the pneuma (if any of them knew enough history of philosophy to know what that is)

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        I have literally never changed anyone’s mind with a cited source, but the podcast ‘general intellect unit’ is a couple marxists geeking out on that field of knowledge. If you’re actually interested, it’s a great starting point.

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          17 months ago

          I am a socialist mathematician, so of course I am actually interested if the quality is on par with my expectations. Thanks for the reference.