In an order issued today, U.S. District Court Judge Vince Chhabria said that the hand-written notes of prosecutors from a 31-year-old murder case “constitute strong evidence that, in prior decades, prosecutors from the [Alameda County District Attorney’s] office were engaged in a pattern of serious misconduct, automatically excluding Jewish and African American jurors in death penalty cases.”

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  • @Cosmonauticus
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    26 months ago

    I was referring more to the fact that a white woman was directly responsible for his murder and used a biased court system to avoid punishment

    Racial bias in jury selection is a bigger problem, but gender bias is still a problem.

    Which is why I think it’s disingenuous to exclude white women from your point as they are more likely to be selected for jury duty than anyone else besides a white male

    • Flying Squid
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      36 months ago

      Which… still makes it a jury bias problem?

      I’m not sure why you think ‘less discrimination than other groups are discriminated against’ is acceptable when it comes to jury selection.

      • @Cosmonauticus
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        36 months ago

        I’m not only telling about jury bias. I’m talking about the justice system as a whole.

        I’m not sure why you think ‘less discrimination than other groups are discriminated against’ is acceptable when it comes to jury selection

        Because in cases with all white juries (even those with white women) they’re still more likely to convict a black defendant.

        Among the key findings:-- In cases with no blacks in the jury pool, blacks were convicted 81 percent of the time, and whites were convicted 66 percent of the time. The estimated difference in conviction rates rises to 16 percent when the authors controlled for the age and gender of the jury and the year and county in which the trial took place

        So while being discriminated themselves they contribute to the overall bigger problem of racial discrimination. You don’t get a pass when you’re an active participant in making things worse regardless of whatever discrimination you face.

        • Flying Squid
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          26 months ago

          I’m not only telling about jury bias. I’m talking about the justice system as a whole.

          Okay, but this is about jury bias, as have my posts been, so if you wanted to change the subject, you should have said so.

          Because in cases with all white juries (even those with white women) they’re still more likely to convict a black defendant.

          That still doesn’t mean that a bias against women, even if they are white, is not a problem. And no one was arguing in favor of all-white juries, so I’m not sure why you’re even bringing that up.

          • @Cosmonauticus
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            26 months ago

            Because your original comment placed the blame solely on straight white even though white women are a major part of jury bias towards minorities

            • Flying Squid
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              Which still doesn’t change the fact that there is a gender bias in jury selection. Bias in jury selection is always bad. Racial bias is bad, religious bias is bad, gender bias is bad. The whole point is to not have a jury of just white men. I’m not sure why that doesn’t include women to you just because they might be white.

              Or are you saying white people shouldn’t be on juries at all?

              • @Cosmonauticus
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                16 months ago

                No one is arguing gender bias isn’t a problem but seeing this article is mainly about racial/ethnic bias you deciding to lay the blame at the feet of only white men makes no sense considering white women are also part of the problem.

                The point is to not have a jury of only WHITE PPL because statistically a jury made up of only white men and women are just as biased as a group of only white men.

                • Flying Squid
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                  16 months ago

                  Please quote me when I laid blame at the feet of only white men.

                  The point is to not have a jury of only WHITE PPL

                  Again, no one is arguing in favor of that. Not me, not anyone else.

                  • @Cosmonauticus
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                    26 months ago

                    It’s almost as if you’re not part of cisgendered, white, male, heteronormative subsection of society, you see how inherently unjust our so-called justice system is, isn’t it?

                    This isn’t solely blaming white men?

                    You literally distanced everyone who isn’t a white straight male from the problem presented in the article including white women even though they are a major part of the problem. While this makes sense for black Latino, Asian and lgbtq groups including white women in that list is on some bullshit