There are lots of bad policies that are legal, systemically supported, and/or long-standing. The public should be made aware of issues like these and the decisions should have to stand on their own merit, not a “it’s just business as usual” argument. If you want to argue that these students should be suspended/deported based on ethical considerations or something similar that would be a different matter, but it’s not the argument you made.
The article itself is very biased. It’s just another reprint (among many) of logically flawed Israeli propaganda that most aren’t buying into anymore. It doesn’t matter how often Netanyahu says criticism of Israel = racism and others repeat it, it’s not going to magically make it true. No matter how hard the governments of Israel, the USA, Germany, etc push the story about the nobility of their actions they aren’t going to normalize acceptance of or complicity in Israeli apartheid and war crimes. There are a lot of people who refuse to forgive and forget what’s happening to Palestinians or how they’re being forced to pay A LOT for it against their will.
I mean, if they’re here specifically to go to school and then they get kicked out of school, then it’s tough to argue that they should be able to stay without having to switch to a different kind of visa (or enroll in a different school).
In other words, the injustice comes from the school policy, not the immigration policy.
I explained that the “legal, systemically supported, and/or long-standing” immigration policy isn’t bad policy. (If you disagree, explain why you think people on a student visa shouldn’t have to be students.) That means the bad policy is squarely on the part of the school. What more do you want?
It’s kind of a mute point, though. So rather than putting pressure on the immigration system to rescind visas they instead put pressure on the faculty of schools.
If you refuse to be sheep, have some compassion, and have joined up thinking there are plenty of pressure points those motivated enough can lean on.
There are lots of bad policies that are legal, systemically supported, and/or long-standing. The public should be made aware of issues like these and the decisions should have to stand on their own merit, not a “it’s just business as usual” argument. If you want to argue that these students should be suspended/deported based on ethical considerations or something similar that would be a different matter, but it’s not the argument you made.
The article itself is very biased. It’s just another reprint (among many) of logically flawed Israeli propaganda that most aren’t buying into anymore. It doesn’t matter how often Netanyahu says criticism of Israel = racism and others repeat it, it’s not going to magically make it true. No matter how hard the governments of Israel, the USA, Germany, etc push the story about the nobility of their actions they aren’t going to normalize acceptance of or complicity in Israeli apartheid and war crimes. There are a lot of people who refuse to forgive and forget what’s happening to Palestinians or how they’re being forced to pay A LOT for it against their will.
I mean, if they’re here specifically to go to school and then they get kicked out of school, then it’s tough to argue that they should be able to stay without having to switch to a different kind of visa (or enroll in a different school).
In other words, the injustice comes from the school policy, not the immigration policy.
You didn’t really address their points
Yes I did.
I explained that the “legal, systemically supported, and/or long-standing” immigration policy isn’t bad policy. (If you disagree, explain why you think people on a student visa shouldn’t have to be students.) That means the bad policy is squarely on the part of the school. What more do you want?
It’s kind of a mute point, though. So rather than putting pressure on the immigration system to rescind visas they instead put pressure on the faculty of schools. If you refuse to be sheep, have some compassion, and have joined up thinking there are plenty of pressure points those motivated enough can lean on.