Curious from people who follow its development closely.

  • What protocol are about to be finally implemented?
  • Which ones are still a struggle?
  • How many serious protocols are there missing?

https://arewewaylandyet.com/

  • @PoliticalAgitator
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    Drivers are still a shit show. The drivers in question have changed, but there’s still extremely common hardware with poor support. I know this is the hardware vendors fault but that doesn’t change my experience as a user – I need my hardware to work.

    It’s still extremely fragmented. Yes, this is often a good thing because it let’s you pick the features you want but I’m not interested in comparing and configuring 14 different tiling window managers.

    It’s still fragile outside of the terminal. I constantly see posts and comments about peoples OS becoming unbootable or show stopping issues they just can’t fix without hopping to another distro or nuking their install from orbit. The 18th most popular distro seems to be popular simply because it makes it easy to roll back fucked updates or sidegrades.

    This stuff might be fine for people who love to tinker but I can’t afford to have my PC shit the bed when I need it for work and I’m not interested in having “chill and play some games” involuntarily replaced with “fix the bootloader”.

    And I can’t help but feel like the “anybody who isn’t sucking off Linux must be bait” mentality ensures this is a pit the scene will never escape from.

    There’s absolutely no chance you haven’t seen the posts describing these problems. You’re commenting on one right now

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      More bait.

      I have to do far more tinkering with Windows to make it usable than I do with Linux. With Linux I typically install it and then change one or two keyboard shortcuts (not even necessary, just a preference).

      I wish Windows was as easy. I feel like in windows you always have to go onto powershell or the registry to fix something. Why can’t it just work?

      And don’t get me started on how often you have to nuke your install when you run into issues (which, since this is windows we’re talking about, is often). Seriously, contact MS support about anything. Their ‘support’ is: “have you tried a system restore? Yeah? Ok then, reinstall Windows, bye.”

      The drivers are awful and you have to search them all out individually rather than all just being automatically included. I’ve not installed a driver on Linux manually in a decade.

      Installing software is a complicated minefield. Why can’t Windows just have a proper software centre?

      I wonder if Windows will ever be as usable as Linux is. Because right now it’s not improving.

        • @TheGrandNagus
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          You’re the one coping lmao. Look if you want to spend more time diagnosing issues with your PC than using it, then Windows is a fantastic choice and I’m happy for you.

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            I guess that 4% market share is because it’s just so good. The Linux community couldn’t even pull that off without a multi-billion dollar corporation helping them with software compatibility and stability.

            Feel free to keep making fun of Windows though – I haven’t made an operating system part of my personality so it doesn’t upset me in the slightest.

            • chepycou 🇻🇦
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              @PoliticalAgitator @TheGrandNagus Well, it’s mostly because Linux is way newer to the computer scene than microsoft’s OS for instance. When #linux started out, computers using msdos were already being shipped for over a decade, and so they were the de facto standard, and it takes time for people to switch to a better product if they are used to another one and have the ecosystem keeps them in (that’s the main reason people keep buying overpriced apple products)

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              4%? Linux has 6.3%+ on the desktop. Then there’s 6.5% unknown which likely includes a disproportionately high amount Linux systems too, what with Linux users being a lot more likely to obfuscate system information from trackers.

              Then on mobile, Linux has 72%.

              And Windows is popular because it came first and they have a monopoly. Once you have a monopoly, it’s easy to keep. Is Comcast so popular because it’s good, or is it because it’s the only real choice for a load of people?

              Well you clearly have made your OS part of your personality, because here you are vehemently defending it and shitting on other OSes.

              I don’t really care. If you somehow enjoy using Windows, despite the myriad of issues, then cool beans. Use it. I’m not really sure why you’re so insecure about it that you need to come here and tell us, though.

              • @PoliticalAgitator
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                4%? Linux has 6.3%+ on the desktop

                Don’t worry, I’m sure those statistics are just “bait” and it’s actually 99%

                Then on mobile, Linux has 72%.

                So it has far more traction when the “bait” things I mentioned don’t apply? Fuck, who’d have thought?

                Well you clearly have made your OS part of your personality, because here you are vehemently defending it and shitting on other OSes.

                Vehemently defending it by saying nothing positive about it. The only reason I kept talking is because you were such a fuckwit in your reply.

                I’m not really sure why you’re so insecure about it that you need to come here and tell us, though.

                You don’t think there’s some kind of clue in the post when I wished it was in a better state?

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                  Don’t worry, I’m sure those statistics are just “bait” and it’s actually 99%

                  What? It’s 6.3%+. We don’t know the precise amount due to the high amount of “unknowns”, but 6.3% is the minimum assuming zero of the “unknown” configurations are Linux, which seems unlikely.

                  Then on mobile, Linux has 72%.

                  So it has far more traction when the “bait” things I mentioned don’t apply? Fuck, who’d have thought?

                  You can strawman all you want, the market share is 72%. End of discussion. “Nooo but that doesn’t countttt” isn’t an argument.

                  Vehemently defending it by saying nothing positive about it. The only reason I kept talking is because you were such a fuckwit in your reply.

                  You’ve been defending indirectly. We get it, you use Windows btw. Nobody cares.

                  You don’t think there’s some kind of clue in the post when I wished it was in a better state?

                  You spread misinformation and flew into a frenzied rage lol. You don’t want it to be in a better state, you just came here to post bait.

                  • @PoliticalAgitator
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                    Oh, I get it now. You just find tiny threads and pull them as melodramatically as you can. It’s a hallmark of manipulative partners and untreated BPD that I should he seen sooner.

                    Minor criticism is turned into “this person must be a troll trying to bait us into anger” and even something you yourself described as “defending indirectly” became “vehemently defending” and of course I was in a “frenzied rage”, probably because I used the word “fuck”.

                    Then if that doesn’t work, resort to the usual lazy tricks. Take figurative speech literally, accuse people of logical fallacies that don’t apply, do a little bit of mind reading and then declare yourself the winner.

                    If I was actually a troll, I couldn’t have asked for a better reaction. You’re the worst ambassador for Linux I’ve ever seen.