• @PugJesusOP
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      538 months ago

      Tankies, like other fash, tend to push others out of spaces due to their vileness. I think it’s just a self-reinforcing cycle rather than coordination.

      • @lennybird
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        228 months ago

        When I understood they’re descendents of ChapoTraphouse it all made sense. Half are righty astroturfers posing; some other sizable chunk are assuredly edgy teenagers. Some are foreign operatives. The rest are, frankly, the duped.

        • @[email protected]
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          48 months ago

          I would actually pay to see the look on Dessalines face when he realizes that he’s the nerd God to a bunch of teenagers.

          • @[email protected]
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            128 months ago

            Yeah. They are not further left, they’re just the slightly left wing inside the rest of right wing fascism

            • @[email protected]
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              128 months ago

              Yeah, they pretty much just simp for any authoritarian that calls themselves communist.

              You know, typical leftist things… /s

              • @[email protected]
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                78 months ago

                I shall balance them out with something utterly deranged. Wait nope cant think of something that is stupid or crazy enough to balance things out. Fuck it we should create a Trans cat girl joint special forces of NATO and have them assassinate Putin.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    48 months ago

                    Thats standard training for them, sadly it has a 105% fatality rate for the volunteers. That 5% was one poor bastard who died revived and thwn died again.

          • @[email protected]
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            Same. This is my exact experience as well. They absolutely refuse to engage with broader leftist ideas on any academic level. They legitimately think the philosophy ended with Lenin and Mao. Even fucking Jacobin doesn’t have enough revolution fan service for them.

            I do kind of get a kick out of them quoting Chomsky though, who is absolutely no friend to Marxist-Leninist brain rot.

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          58 months ago

          It’s interesting, my instance doesn’t block them, so we end up often getting pulled into threads if we don’t check the details.

          They definitely don’t like us when we show up, lol. You can tell they aren’t used to it, and they get legitimately angry when someone points out that American citizens aren’t evil, or that the world is more complex than their black and white views allow.

    • Admiral Patrick
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      If you’re new from Reddit, welcome!

      I, too, am quite suspicious, given those mods and associated power posters on lemmy.ml, that there is a coordinated propaganda campaign there. Or, there are some turbo-nerd-tankies that regurgitate it at the speed of light of their own volition.

      Yes, and yes.

      I just blocked both of the .ml instances and a few others that tended to ideologically brigade every sub. Has dramatically improved my experience here. Before that, trying to block individual users was like swatting flies near a manure pile: a never-ending battle. Eventually you realize you simply need to move away from the manure pile.

    • @[email protected]
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      128 months ago

      Similar story here. Got banned from world news.ml on my first or second day for calling out russian/chinese govt talking points. Their go to is, “all western media is a lie, heres what glorious china has to say. At worst, the truth ‘Lies in the Middle’ TM.”

      On reddit id say its worse. Post api changes, all the left leaning communities got absolutely hijacked. Places that prided themselves on no bans were banning anyone not regurgitating russian propaganda or “noo vooting” rubbish.

      • @Cryophilia
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        It’s definitely worse here in the sense that there’s more blatant repression. But I prefer that to the insidious ways they do it on reddit.

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          Hard disagree. I started picking up bans in formerly mildly left subs like therightcantmeme, more left leaning subs like completeanarchy, and the place was suddenly full of insidious left-passing communities like ultraleft over night. What were once spaces that banned no one, embraced many different leftist schools, and prided themselves on thinking for themselves now banned leftists who broke rank and file and instead offered the correct opinions on any host of issues the second one asked. To put another way, there was an influx of posts like, “im new, whats the [insert leftist branch here] thought on [insert modern political issue here]?” There was a time when these posts were not only hardly existent, but such asks would be met with, “go and read up on theory and see what u like, dont ask for ur thoughts to be spoon fed to u.”

          • @Cryophilia
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            38 months ago

            I guess I was just referring to the larger subs on reddit like politics, news, and worldnews. I’m not part of any smaller political subs.

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              Ahh understood. I remember worldnews turning into, “and heres why the IDF is holy and Gaza should be leveled,” which, while batshit as well, is the opposite of what the tankies are saying.

              • @Cryophilia
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                The big subs really ramped it up when it came to Israel. Worldnews would have whole threads with 600 comments all saying [removed]. Prior to that it was much more subtle.

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                  58 months ago

                  Lol i remember all that in worldnews, but the other big subs i remember being much more sane in that regard. Politics and news i remember acknowledging that its a fucking genocide

    • @Draghetta
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      108 months ago

      FYI lemmy was founded by a tankie, you shouldn’t be that surprised.

      • @[email protected]
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        88 months ago

        I think I’ve seen them mention that their personal views shouldn’t affect Lemmy’s moderation and administration in practice and the code of conduct reflects that. However there’re communities where they’re the only mod and the worldnews style random reason modding is apparent there as well

        • @[email protected]
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          68 months ago

          They 100% intend to keep their thumb on the scale as much as possible. I think their behavior has shown pretty conclusively that they cannot be trusted and will abuse any tiny bit of power they can.

        • @daltotron
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          28 months ago

          I wanna get out of the echo chambers it’s so easy to create.

          I think you’d probably have to log off to escape that, but then you’d just be confined to a different kind of inescapable echo chamber

      • @[email protected]
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        78 months ago

        the free software “movement” as it were attracts everyone from tankies to ancaps, and personally I think that’s great. At least (almost) everyone can agree on something

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      98 months ago

      Consider blocking hexbear if their antics get annoying. They aren’t as bad as the .ml instances but they can be super annoying

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      78 months ago

      I 100% believe at least a few of them are either state sponsored, or political extremists (drank waaay too much kool-aid.)

      It’s hard to say emphatically which it is. Their responses are just so incredibly far beyond reasonable.

    • @[email protected]
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      78 months ago

      Most of them are literally just children going through their edgy “I have no stake in society so burning it all down makes sense to me” phase.

      • @someguy3
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        58 months ago

        I’ve literally described ml as “I’m 14 and very edgy”.

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      68 months ago

      I’ve never seen a singular group online that felt more like talking to NPCs then the Hexbear/Lemmygrad folks.