• @Ensign_Crab
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    -17 months ago

    You honestly think the people posting this sentiment don’t want Netanyahu to stop?

    I don’t know. They sure as hell don’t want Biden to stop supporting Netanyahu’s genocide.

    Maybe you disagree with the logic being used, but you can’t say these people actively want Netanyahu to continue what he’s doing.

    Then they should pressure Biden to stop supporting Netanyahu’s genocide. They won’t. They get mad at people who say Biden should stop supporting genocide instead.

    I want this to end as much as you,

    Yeah.

    but it is undeniable that Biden is a better candidate than Trump in this respect.

    Yes. He should still stop supporting genocide. Maybe centrists should say so.

    • @danc4498
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      137 months ago

      You can be 2 things at the same time. This whole thread is about voting. It’s possible to pressure Biden while also voting against the undeniably worse candidate.

      What doesn’t make sense is voting in a way that will end up significantly worse for Gaza and saying you’re doing that because you can’t possibly support Biden.

      • @Ensign_Crab
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        -57 months ago

        It’s possible to pressure Biden while also voting against the undeniably worse candidate.

        Then centrists should start doing the former in addition to the latter.

        Instead, they scream that anyone who does the former wants trump.

        • @danc4498
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          107 months ago

          I think when you joint a thread that’s about voting, or references voting, these are the comments you’re going to see. Doesn’t means we’re “centrists”, just means we care about the election results IN ADDITION TO the state of our world.

          • @Ensign_Crab
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            -47 months ago

            Doesn’t means we’re “centrists”, just means we care about the election results IN ADDITION TO the state of our world.

            If you care about election results, you should be doing everything you can to pressure Biden to abandon a losing issue.

            If not “centrist”, what term would you prefer for people who would rather support genocide and lose to Trump with all that entails than abandon support for genocide and win?

            • @danc4498
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              67 months ago

              I’d call person a strawman.

              • @Ensign_Crab
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                -47 months ago

                And yet, I’m not seeing centrists pressuring Biden to stop supporting genocide.

                • @danc4498
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                  87 months ago

                  Probably cause centrists don’t care about Gaza as much as liberals. I don’t know cause I’m not a centrist. I’m a liberal that doesn’t like what’s going on in Gaza, but will vote against Trump no matter what happens.

                  • @Ensign_Crab
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                    -17 months ago

                    I don’t know cause I’m not a centrist. I’m a liberal that doesn’t like what’s going on in Gaza, but will vote against Trump no matter what happens.

                    And I’m a progressive who has said multiple times in this thread that I’m voting for Biden. I bitterly resent being manipulated into voting in a way that renders me monstrous, and I hope he stops supporting genocide.