• @AdamEatsAss
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    578 months ago

    The real problem is convincing people there is a problem. I grew up in suburban America and almost everyone got a car when they turned 16. A 15 minute drive was considered not that far away. My bus ride to school was about 45 minutes. I went to college in a large dense city and it opened my eyes to how things could be so much better. Unfortunately most people who live where I grow up would say “you’re going to get shot and die” if you get anywhere near a city.

    • Gormadt
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      428 months ago

      The level of paranoia that suburbanites have about density is horrendously upsetting and intentional

      Trying to tell a suburbanite that crime rates have fallen drastically over time is so damn hard

      • @RGB3x3
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        8 months ago

        Just look at per capita crime rates. US cities are typically less dangerous than suburban areas.

        New York City has a per capita crime rate of 6.3 per 100,000.

        Huntsville, AL has a crime rate of 387 per 100,000.

        And that difference was actually a huge surprise to me when I just looked it up. But the problem is people look at the raw number of crimes committed and think cities are so dangerous. It’s actually the opposite.

        • @Malfeasant
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          28 months ago

          Does that distinguish between violent crime vs property crime? I always heard that violent crime is a little higher in cities, while property crime is a lot higher in suburbs, but I never bothered to fact check because the (dense city) neighborhood I grew up in only had one stabbing in 20 years, so it seemed safe enough…

    • @[email protected]
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      88 months ago

      While I understand that not everyone is educated on these issues, I grew up in the suburbs and I always knew it was fucked, even if I didn’t know what a better system looked like. I really don’t understand how people can see that and think it’s somehow good.

    • Maeve
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      48 months ago

      Do they really think suburban and rural areas are different?