• @Maalus
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    16 months ago

    Yeah till they buff Spear targetting in the next patch as they promised and everyone will be running it for the buildings.

    What people want is powerful weapons, not peashooters. Slugger got nerfed because “we thought it was the best sniper rifle in the game”. So instead of nerfing snipeability - adding tumbling after 40m, maybe huge damage falloff, they nerf close range damage and stagger. So now it isn’t possible to stagger a devastator out of the rocket salvo at all. So they buff dominator, which is basically a slugger now, just with a shitty cloud every time you shoot.

    The issues are they aren’t balancing sensibly, and they nerf too much instead of bringing guns up. The nerfs they deal out are quite often so severe, that the weapon becomes completely useless. And then they even say “we didn’t see many people using the slugger, yet we felt like it was too good of a sniper rifle”. Like what kind of balancing is that if they aren’t even going by the numbers?

    • BruceTwarzen
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      16 months ago

      Mabe, but if they start buffing stuff more they also need either new difficulties or pump them up as well. I run through missions with basically meme loadouts as long as i have either a quasar even after they nerfed it or a jump pack.
      Deep rock galactic is a pretty similar game, but feels way harder on max difficulty, and they are implementing a harder difficulty as well. I play with a lot of people who just get dragged through helldiver missions and die 15 times, that’s not really the point of the scaling imo.
      I haven’t tried the bew slugger yet becase i tried new things, but there was no reason to not use the slugger for me.

      • @Maalus
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        06 months ago

        Helldivers isn’t a hard game. The difficulty stems from bullshit, not being outplayed / fair difficulty. If 90% of attacks are instakill, or “higher difficulty means ridiculously more superarmored bugs you need AT to deal with”, then there is an issue with the gameplay loop, not with the weapons. The old slugger was a good, niche weapon. Slow firing, but quick to turn and aim, staggered enemies so you could shoot them without aiming precisely first, to later have time to finish them with a headshot. Now it doesn’t have any of thay and is basically a slow firing assault rifle.

        The game “clicks” for people when they realize you can just run from a fight and return later. Drop two strategems, walk there and backwards and you get a clear point. Most objectives can be done in stealth. For any others, strategems and run. With a 4 man crew, you simply get more margin of error when removing enemies “the normal way”. Ultimately there is simply a large HP pool to bring down.