• @SulaymanF
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    161 year ago

    You forget that Israel collects taxes on Palestinians and then doesn’t let them vote and doesn’t give it to the PA, as well as deprives them of human rights. That’s basically a dictatorship for nearly half the residents.

    • @Ponchy
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      31 year ago

      Taxation without representation really rustles my jimmies. I wonder how the US conservatives will react, could get real antisemitic real quick

      • @randon31415
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        61 year ago

        Illegal immigrants are taxed all the time. In fact, their contributions to social security (but not withdrawals) are the main thing keeping the program afloat. Republicans love taxation without representation if it isn’t white folks.

      • @finkrat
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        21 year ago

        You forget the huge evangelical segment of the US conservative base, they have a thing for Israel

    • @[email protected]
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      -31 year ago

      The only source I could find for something like this were instances where Israeli authorities withheld taxes collected on behalf of the PA due to debts incurred by the PA to the Israeli Electric Corporation.

      They don’t let them vote because they’re not citizens. You should ask the PA to let them vote.

      • @SulaymanF
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        81 year ago

        No, as repeated punitive actions the Israeli government withheld taxes and import fees that the Israel government collected as part of its border control and that were due to the PA, and they withheld what was owed as a way to punish the PA for supporting UN and ICC actions. This created a crisis as PA employees weren’t being paid and caused work stoppages. It doesn’t matter the excuse; the end result is israel collected taxes on a people and wouldn’t give them representation. It’s further violating international law by taking the land under Palestinians’ feet and giving it to Israelis. It’s still a de facto dictatorship even if you try to use the PA as a Bantustan.

        • @[email protected]
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          -151 year ago

          Sorry, but if the PA doesn’t pay its debts, they have no right to complain when they aren’t given free money.

          Maybe if Palestinians resisted the PA as much as they resist Israel, they would have a functioning government which wouldn’t need Israel to collect taxes for them.

          • @SulaymanF
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            91 year ago

            If you’re going to complain about the PA, then maybe you should be upset that the Knesset publicly supported a coup in the PA and armed that coup with weapons, which it then used to stop elections. You don’t get to break someone else’s thing and then blame the victims for their thing being broken.

              • @SulaymanF
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                61 year ago

                2006 coup by Fatah against Hamas and the attempted takeover of Gaza Strip. It’s well documented.

            • @[email protected]
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              -31 year ago

              What coup are you referring to?

              I have never heard of this, and hours of research turned up nothing.

              • @SulaymanF
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                “Hours of research” failed to turn up the 2006 coup by Fatah in an attempt to seize control of the democratically elected PA government? It was a major international news story and spilled over into influencing US-Iraq relations. They failed in Gaza but took control in West Bank. The Knesset publicly held discussions and decided to fund Fatah’s coup including giving them weapons. We’re still feeling the repercussions today, and naturally Netanyahu used it as an excuse to avoid any further peace negotiations after he helped fragment the Palestinian leadership in a fait accompli.