Yeah i mean, if this is true (and I have no reason to doubt it ) it’s not something I’m looking to defend, but this industry stiffs customers on the regular, and in worse ways than this.
very true. we just gotta stay in solidarity with our fellow helldivers that may no longer be able to protect democracy and contribute to the war effort in this particular case.
And this is after they have already bought the game. Sony turns around and wants existing players to sign up for something that wasn’t there when they purchased the game.
How about you go buy a car and then a few months later, the manufacturer says you need to sign up for a free account to continue driving said car? You’d be cool with it? You wouldn’t think it was a dick move? Free or not, people are sick of needing accounts to use everything. It’s just another way for making money off our data and another avenue for our information getting leaked (does no one remember Sony’s track record for breaches and leaks??).
Standard behaviour isn’t an excuse for shitty practices. If you want the standard to become better, rebel against/boycott entities enforcing that standard.
Once upon a time slavery was standard behaviour. Once upon a time company towns were standard behaviour. Once upon a time, absolute monarchies were standard behaviour. Things got better because people didn’t accept the standard and took a stand against it. Not because they dismissed it as the standard.
I’m pointing out that “it’s fine because it’s the norm” isn’t a logical argument by showing how absurd that argument sounds when applied to other things.
Logical arguments are sound even when you use them for other contexts.
When you use quotes, you’re supposed use words that words actually said by someone. Not paraphrase, not your interpretation. So, I suggest mastering the basics, before moving on logical and absurdism.
And when you’ve done that, go and take a long hard stare in the mirror, and ask yourself if you think it’s clever or moral, to invoke slavery as a means to win an argument about a PSN account.
Wasn’t trying to use slavery for an emotional appeal, but as an example of a standard that was overturned that I could think of off the top of my head. I realized that there could be some emotions invoked by the slavery example and intentionally tried to think of less emotionally charged examples for my next examples. I used company towns and absolute monarchies instead of the first few things I thought of which were: women’s rights, homophobia/transphobia, indentured servitude, apartheid, death sentences. Most famous standards, that everyone would know of, that have changed for the better, are emotionally charged.
This argument chain has been going on for three days and I have better things to do in my life, so I will stop replying to this chain after this.
I would like to jump in and say, I agree with you. All these people with CDPR launchers/accounts, EA launchers/accounts, ubisoft launchers/accounts, xbox game pass accounts, pissed off at the one game that has made every possible attempt to not fuck it’s consumers. Probably making these comments from chrome signed into their Google account on their personal computer signed into their Microsoft account. This requirement is beyond Arrowheads control, and it doesn’t even require you to install software that wants to run in your tray. Just use a bogus email, sign in in game once and forget about it.
Pc gamers with 15 accounts being asked to create one more.
Unless you bought the game in one of the countries where you can’t sign up for a PlayStation account, then you can just go fuck yourself.
Yeah and everyone that clicks yes to “are you 18” is right?
Jesus the bleading hearts for rule following around here.
Yeah i mean, if this is true (and I have no reason to doubt it ) it’s not something I’m looking to defend, but this industry stiffs customers on the regular, and in worse ways than this.
Being slightly less shitty doesn’t mean people should stop calling them out for their shittiness.
That makes it okay, obviously.
very true. we just gotta stay in solidarity with our fellow helldivers that may no longer be able to protect democracy and contribute to the war effort in this particular case.
*being forced
And this is after they have already bought the game. Sony turns around and wants existing players to sign up for something that wasn’t there when they purchased the game.
How about you go buy a car and then a few months later, the manufacturer says you need to sign up for a free account to continue driving said car? You’d be cool with it? You wouldn’t think it was a dick move? Free or not, people are sick of needing accounts to use everything. It’s just another way for making money off our data and another avenue for our information getting leaked (does no one remember Sony’s track record for breaches and leaks??).
I mean, it’s standard behaviour for the industry. Gamers have been royally fucked in the ass , in public, for 10 years or more. This is nothing.
Standard behaviour isn’t an excuse for shitty practices. If you want the standard to become better, rebel against/boycott entities enforcing that standard.
Once upon a time slavery was standard behaviour. Once upon a time company towns were standard behaviour. Once upon a time, absolute monarchies were standard behaviour. Things got better because people didn’t accept the standard and took a stand against it. Not because they dismissed it as the standard.
Gamer compares been required to login with sony, to slavery.
Keep going mate - I’m loving it .
I’m pointing out that “it’s fine because it’s the norm” isn’t a logical argument by showing how absurd that argument sounds when applied to other things.
Logical arguments are sound even when you use them for other contexts.
When you use quotes, you’re supposed use words that words actually said by someone. Not paraphrase, not your interpretation. So, I suggest mastering the basics, before moving on logical and absurdism.
And when you’ve done that, go and take a long hard stare in the mirror, and ask yourself if you think it’s clever or moral, to invoke slavery as a means to win an argument about a PSN account.
You can grow from this.
https://www.grammarly.com/blog/quotation-marks/ Quotation marks are for more than just direct quotes.
Wasn’t trying to use slavery for an emotional appeal, but as an example of a standard that was overturned that I could think of off the top of my head. I realized that there could be some emotions invoked by the slavery example and intentionally tried to think of less emotionally charged examples for my next examples. I used company towns and absolute monarchies instead of the first few things I thought of which were: women’s rights, homophobia/transphobia, indentured servitude, apartheid, death sentences. Most famous standards, that everyone would know of, that have changed for the better, are emotionally charged.
This argument chain has been going on for three days and I have better things to do in my life, so I will stop replying to this chain after this.
Hope this can help you start thinking about how to make logical arguments
Homie, you’re pretty deep in that hole already. Stop digging.
I know, it’s almost too easy 😅
It’s Just gamers, living up to every single stereotype ever .
nah, you’re simply in the wrong
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About what ?
Your line of reasoning
Which is ?
I would like to jump in and say, I agree with you. All these people with CDPR launchers/accounts, EA launchers/accounts, ubisoft launchers/accounts, xbox game pass accounts, pissed off at the one game that has made every possible attempt to not fuck it’s consumers. Probably making these comments from chrome signed into their Google account on their personal computer signed into their Microsoft account. This requirement is beyond Arrowheads control, and it doesn’t even require you to install software that wants to run in your tray. Just use a bogus email, sign in in game once and forget about it.
It seems you had to create a strawman there to booster your weak argument
Of all the places to make this strawman, you do it on lemmy, lmao. Have you not seen the amount of firefox, Linux, etc., posts on here?