You support Israel because you’re parroting a Zionist talking about about Palestinians being transphobic and homophbic ignoring how they, like everywhere else, have an lgtbq population that is also being murdered by Israel. All you have to say is that it’s no racist to paint an entire group of people as being a certain way because Palestine is not a race. Sure that makes sense.
It’s not comparing apples to oranges, it’s the same logic. You paint an entire group of people as anti-lgbtq, even though the laws you claim don’t exist in Palestine, and extrapolate that to the entire population. Or it’s even more insane because you take examples from other countries and apply it to Palestine without actually providing any evidence for what you say is true for Palestine. Those laws don’t exist there so what is you’re logic that Palestine is homophobic? Because all of Islam is, sure that makes sense. No need to provide any evidence for it, and if you claim that they have a high transphobic population so does red-states in the US thus the comparison is valid.
I have never argued homophobia or transphobia is not a problem in Muslim countries. What you’re saying becomes a problem when you essentialize an entire group of people as being hateful. This is what racists does so it makes sense to point it out.
You support Israel because you’re parroting a Zionist talking about about Palestinians being transphobic and homophbic ignoring how they, like everywhere else, have an lgtbq population that is also being murdered by Israel.
Please point out where I’ve stated I support Israel? Pretty sure I’ve state the opposite multiple times in this thread.
And once again, you bring up an ignorant talking point, so let’s run with your logic, because there are lgbt people in Palestine it makes Israel murders to them, not murders to anyone else apparently. So by your logic, the USA for 20 years were just murdering lgbt people in Iraq and Afghanistan…
All you have to say is that it’s no racist to paint an entire group of people as being a certain way because Palestine is not a race. Sure that makes sense.
They’re not a race, are you trolling me at this point? Cause your logic is getting dumber and dumber.
It’s not comparing apples to oranges, it’s the same logic.
It really is but ok…
You paint an entire group of people as anti-lgbtq, even though the laws you claim don’t exist in Palestine, and extrapolate that to the entire population.
I’ve been saying Islam and lgbtq rights are not friends, no where have I said Palestinians are all anti-lgbtq, you have continued to suggest I have, just as you continue to say I’ve been using Zionist talking points. You also seem to lack the ability to produce any actual facts of your own, while I’ve continued to have to provide you with articles and the laws in middle east…so I’ll do it again.
It’s not hard to understand that lgbt persons cannot openly express themselves there.
Or it’s even more insane because you take examples from other countries and apply it to Palestine without actually providing any evidence for what you say is true for Palestine.
LGBTI people’s rights
Authorities failed to prevent and investigate homophobic and transphobic threats and attacks.
On 9 July, security forces stood by and watched as a mob beat youths and children participating in a parade organized by Ashtar Theatre in Ramallah that included rainbow flags. The attack came amid a wave of incitement to violence and hate speech against LGBTI people and feminists that the authorities failed to investigate.
In October, Ahmad Abu Murkhiyeh, a 25-year-old gay man, was found decapitated in Hebron. He had sought asylum in Israel two years prior to his murder.
Those laws don’t exist there so what is you’re logic that Palestine is homophobic? Because all of Islam is, sure that makes sense. No need to provide any evidence for it, and if you claim that they have a high transphobic population
I’ve provided the laws, I’ve provided the articles, I’ve provided everything that backs my claims, you and othets on the other hand have done nothing but toss out whataboutisms and anecdotal evidence of your claims. You clearly have zero clue what it is like in the middle east and in Islamic sharia law states.
so does red-states in the US thus the comparison is valid.
As I said more whataboutism…and our red states have plenty of homophobic and transphobic groups and they absolutely are disgusting pieces of shit for existing, but because they exist doesn’t give a pass to the middle east.
I have never argued homophobia or transphobia is not a problem in Muslim countries. What you’re saying becomes a problem when you essentialize an entire group of people as being hateful. This is what racists does so it makes sense to point it out.
Yea you have, you literally in this very post said Palestine doesn’t have any anti LGBT policies…you have continued to point out how Israel is only somehow killing LGBT people and you have continued to point out whatsboutism’s comparing our red states with the middle east.
I’ve provided plenty of evidence for my points, and you and others have done nothing but move goal posts, use anecdotal evidence, and whatsboutisms, all while calling me a racist and other personal attacks, because you’re unable to provide any sort of evidence that contradict my points.
You don’t seem to even try to respond to anything I’m saying at all so I don’t see the point of this. You’re straight up lying. You said “Palestine is not a race, and Islam is %100 transphobic and the main religion practiced there (98% of the population).” to me saying it’s racist to claim Palestinians are all transphobic. If you get to the point of having to lie to prove your point I se no point in continuing to this. Again never claimed that homophobia isn’t a problem but keep posting that straw man please. Dumb fuck.
Also you don’t seem to know what the word whataboutism means or you’re just incapable of understanding my point. I’m not saying we shouldn’t care about homophobia in middle eastern countries because it happens in republican states. I’m applying your logic to show how it doesn’t make sense. That is totally lost on you however.
It’s a common tactic by racists to claim they are not racists by saying everyone from that country is a criminal etc. and when you point out the flaw in the logic they go, but Nigeria is not a race, Islam is not a race, etc etc. It’s dumb, It’s boring and has been done to death.
You don’t seem to even try to respond to anything I’m saying at all so I don’t see the point of this. You’re straight up lying. You said “Palestine is not a race, and Islam is %100 transphobic and the main religion practiced there (98% of the population).” to me saying it’s racist to claim Palestinians are all transphobic. If you get to the point of having to lie to prove your point I se no point in continuing to this. Again never claimed that homophobia isn’t a problem but keep posting that straw man please. Dumb fuck.
Uhh this entire thread of comments have been about people saying that Palestine is completely fine for the LGBT community…learn to read and then learn to understand what you’re reading.
Also you don’t seem to know what the word whataboutism means or you’re just incapable of understanding my point. I’m not saying we shouldn’t care about homophobia in middle eastern countries because it happens in republican states. I’m applying your logic to show how it doesn’t make sense. That is totally lost on you however.
Naa it’s not lost on me champ, that’s a perfect example of whataboutism…like definition perfect. I’ve pointed out multiple times in this chain of comments to multiple people that Palestine is not a LGBT friendly place and that Islam is not a friend to the LGBT community, and ehat I’ve been getting back is “well the christians in the USA are homophobic too”… that’s whataboutism.
It’s a common tactic by racists to claim they are not racists by saying everyone from that country is a criminal etc. and when you point out the flaw in the logic they go, but Nigeria is not a race, Islam is not a race, etc etc. It’s dumb, It’s boring and has been done to death.
Lol sure thing champ. You keep trying to understand what they adults are talking about, so far it’s been ignorance and dribble.
You support Israel because you’re parroting a Zionist talking about about Palestinians being transphobic and homophbic ignoring how they, like everywhere else, have an lgtbq population that is also being murdered by Israel. All you have to say is that it’s no racist to paint an entire group of people as being a certain way because Palestine is not a race. Sure that makes sense.
It’s not comparing apples to oranges, it’s the same logic. You paint an entire group of people as anti-lgbtq, even though the laws you claim don’t exist in Palestine, and extrapolate that to the entire population. Or it’s even more insane because you take examples from other countries and apply it to Palestine without actually providing any evidence for what you say is true for Palestine. Those laws don’t exist there so what is you’re logic that Palestine is homophobic? Because all of Islam is, sure that makes sense. No need to provide any evidence for it, and if you claim that they have a high transphobic population so does red-states in the US thus the comparison is valid.
I have never argued homophobia or transphobia is not a problem in Muslim countries. What you’re saying becomes a problem when you essentialize an entire group of people as being hateful. This is what racists does so it makes sense to point it out.
Please point out where I’ve stated I support Israel? Pretty sure I’ve state the opposite multiple times in this thread. And once again, you bring up an ignorant talking point, so let’s run with your logic, because there are lgbt people in Palestine it makes Israel murders to them, not murders to anyone else apparently. So by your logic, the USA for 20 years were just murdering lgbt people in Iraq and Afghanistan…
They’re not a race, are you trolling me at this point? Cause your logic is getting dumber and dumber.
It really is but ok…
I’ve been saying Islam and lgbtq rights are not friends, no where have I said Palestinians are all anti-lgbtq, you have continued to suggest I have, just as you continue to say I’ve been using Zionist talking points. You also seem to lack the ability to produce any actual facts of your own, while I’ve continued to have to provide you with articles and the laws in middle east…so I’ll do it again.
https://web.archive.org/web/20231031155142/https://www.humandignitytrust.org/country-profile/palestine/
It’s not hard to understand that lgbt persons cannot openly express themselves there.
https://web.archive.org/web/20231101143647/https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-africa/palestine-state-of/report-palestine-state-of/
I’ve provided the laws, I’ve provided the articles, I’ve provided everything that backs my claims, you and othets on the other hand have done nothing but toss out whataboutisms and anecdotal evidence of your claims. You clearly have zero clue what it is like in the middle east and in Islamic sharia law states.
As I said more whataboutism…and our red states have plenty of homophobic and transphobic groups and they absolutely are disgusting pieces of shit for existing, but because they exist doesn’t give a pass to the middle east.
Yea you have, you literally in this very post said Palestine doesn’t have any anti LGBT policies…you have continued to point out how Israel is only somehow killing LGBT people and you have continued to point out whatsboutism’s comparing our red states with the middle east.
I’ve provided plenty of evidence for my points, and you and others have done nothing but move goal posts, use anecdotal evidence, and whatsboutisms, all while calling me a racist and other personal attacks, because you’re unable to provide any sort of evidence that contradict my points.
You don’t seem to even try to respond to anything I’m saying at all so I don’t see the point of this. You’re straight up lying. You said “Palestine is not a race, and Islam is %100 transphobic and the main religion practiced there (98% of the population).” to me saying it’s racist to claim Palestinians are all transphobic. If you get to the point of having to lie to prove your point I se no point in continuing to this. Again never claimed that homophobia isn’t a problem but keep posting that straw man please. Dumb fuck.
Also you don’t seem to know what the word whataboutism means or you’re just incapable of understanding my point. I’m not saying we shouldn’t care about homophobia in middle eastern countries because it happens in republican states. I’m applying your logic to show how it doesn’t make sense. That is totally lost on you however.
It’s a common tactic by racists to claim they are not racists by saying everyone from that country is a criminal etc. and when you point out the flaw in the logic they go, but Nigeria is not a race, Islam is not a race, etc etc. It’s dumb, It’s boring and has been done to death.
Uhh this entire thread of comments have been about people saying that Palestine is completely fine for the LGBT community…learn to read and then learn to understand what you’re reading.
Naa it’s not lost on me champ, that’s a perfect example of whataboutism…like definition perfect. I’ve pointed out multiple times in this chain of comments to multiple people that Palestine is not a LGBT friendly place and that Islam is not a friend to the LGBT community, and ehat I’ve been getting back is “well the christians in the USA are homophobic too”… that’s whataboutism.
Lol sure thing champ. You keep trying to understand what they adults are talking about, so far it’s been ignorance and dribble.