“I expect a semi-dystopian future with substantial pain and suffering for the people of the Global South,” one expert said.

  • Nume MacAroon
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    48 months ago

    Counterpoint: There are millions of vegans taking the initiative to do the right thing when corporations and government obviously will not.

    • @riodoro1
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      Millions is not billions and all those vegans still work at offices, buy electronic devices, drive cars and pollute in more ways than I can imagine. The problem with climate is that we’ve grown extremely accustomed to the comforts of our extremely unsustainable lives and we’re so far gone into environmental destruction that the steps we would all need to take to stop it are already extreme, and they are only getting extreme…er.

      I’m a vegetarian myself, I never ever buy plastic bottles and Im generally conscious about my impact on the environment, but without basically detaching myself from society I can’t even put a dent in the destruction my lifestyle is bringing.

      Most people aren’t even vegetarians and still buy plastic bottles, they will never stop until the society tells them to. We need to fundamentally shit (a typo, but I’ll allow it) our civilization to a completely different mode to even stop deepening our graves, but guess what. We can’t even fix the fucking housing market so we’re simply doomed. The corporations will still hoard their pointless profits and we’ll get annual new fucking iphones until the day we won’t even be able to grow our food.

      • Nume MacAroon
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        28 months ago

        If people don’t want to change, how in the world do you think they’ll let a [democrat, republican, etc] politician force them to? Do you think cocacola will save us? The answer is not fun.

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          There has been a consistent effort from the fossil fuel industry to shift the blame from themselves to individuals.

          How Big Oil helped push the idea of a ‘carbon footprint’

          From recycling ♻️ to plastic straws, the ad campaigns put the onus on individual consumers instead of the industry. Americans overwhelmingly want to do something about climate change. But the propaganda prevents action.

          • Nume MacAroon
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            18 months ago

            THIS propaganda prevents action because you’re basically saying that we shouldn’t do anything short of a revolution

            • @TokenBoomerOP
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              18 months ago

              Correct. It’s the most efficient way to institute degrowth and establish a new sustainable economy.