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    “develop a technological standard that might turn a user’s electronic device into the proof of age necessary to access restricted online content.”

    Can we not? Can parents just take care of their kids like they have for thousands of years instead of futility trying to babyproof the internet for a minority of people? Jesus.

    • @Serinus
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      Especially since parenting is the only thing that’s going to actually work. Do you think kids won’t figure out a VPN? If they heard enough to type “pornhub”, they’ll hear about the one extra step.

      And there are worse things on the Internet than porn. Some likely on Roblox.

      You’re just going to have to parent your kid with or without this nanny state blocking scheme.

    • @[email protected]
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      It’s like mandating all cars need to have an ignition interlock because some people drive drunk.

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        or a real example that most newer cars have a “check rear seat for occupant” alert because some people forget their babies in the backseat and they die…

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        The difference is that the people involved there are adults and there is no equivalent to the parent responsible for their behaviour so a technical solution makes more sense there.

    • @[email protected]
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      That was the opinion of the Supreme Court nearly 20 years ago in Ashcroft vs. ACLU, but here we are.

    • PropaGandalf
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      Yeah fuck the state. Only overprotective, power hungry loosers work there anyways.

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    • Night Monkey
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      So there are laws that people agree with that say people under 18 cannot buy/see porn at the store. What makes this any different

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        Basically PH and other xxx sites need you to verify your identity by uploading your ID. It’s what should be unconstitutional and a violation of privacy.

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        Probably the bigger issue is the centralization of the internet

        If we would have some more decentralized way of consuming content, then it would be harder to censor or control it

        The internet nowadays is essentially just google, facebook, and pornhub

        So applying a rule you can just target one company which will comply anyway because this is communism

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          I believe the responsibility should be on the parents to keep their children from viewing porn before they’re 18. Not the government. I also believe there should be at least some control over what minors have access to. Will it ever be 100%? Nope. All we can do is the best we can do

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      This is a world for children, a world that adults have to keep alive.

      • @captainlezbian
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        This is a world for everyone in it. We shouldn’t actively make it hostile to children, but we also shouldn’t be prioritizing forcing every aspect of it to fit their needs.

        Our need to keep it alive isn’t just for children, it’s for everyone, which is also completely unrelated to censorship of sexual content

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      Can parents just take care of their kids like they have for thousands of years

      Okay, so lets be certain that kids do not have a direct connection with every intelligence agency, mafia and terrorist organization in the world right in their pocket, just as they did not for thousands of years. Now, to be clear I really don’t like the approach they’ve chosen here (I think we need to go much deeper into the fundamental design of the Internet), but I would hope it’s not a controversial statement to assert that our society has taken a very sharp turn for the worse ever since the Internet became ubiquitous in children’s development, and I think that really ought to prompt discussion about how it’s being used.

      • CazRaX
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        In other words parents need to be parents and take care of their kids, glad you agree with the OP.

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        Controversially, I think the Internet has made society better. We’re still in the growing years of the age of information, so plenty of challenges to overcome for sure, but it largely has made for a more informed society and really empowered the average person despite the resurgence of authoritarianism.

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      There’s also this gem at the end

      Aylo can expect that law enforcement will continue watching Pornhub closely

      ETA : if you don’t read arstechnica, really , you should

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        It’s clearly about trying to erase anonymity or even the pretense of it on the internet.
        For the children and terrorists are just about always the excuse it starts with

  • adONis
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    “PornHub pulls out” 🙊

    • folkrav
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      The people who really think of age verification as effective measures tend to also be against having those in schools in the first place.

    • @swag_money
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      other than the one in the title?

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    To kick off the new year, Montana and North Carolina joined a growing number of states enforcing laws requiring age verification to access adult content online.

    "While safety and compliance are at the forefront of our mission, giving your ID card every time you want to visit an adult platform is not the most effective solution for protecting our users, and in fact, will put children and your privacy at risk.”

    According to CNN, Pornhub and its private equity owners, Ethical Capital Partners (ECP), are currently working with big tech companies to create new device-based age verification solutions.

    Those efforts include lobbying Apple, Google, and Microsoft to “develop a technological standard that might turn a user’s electronic device into the proof of age necessary to access restricted online content.”

    A Pornhub spokesperson told Ars that the technology to accomplish device-based age verification “exists today,” but "what is required is the political and social will to make it happen.

    As a result of the investigation, in addition to scrutiny from state lawmakers, Aylo can expect that law enforcement will continue watching Pornhub closely.


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    • @captainlezbian
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      I’m also uncomfortable with device based age verification. That sounds an awful lot like a massive privacy violation that will have far more false positives and false negatives than are reasonable. It’s giving strong “AI face recognition” vibes