• @[email protected]
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    2410 months ago

    tl;dr: practice provides an 18-26% improvement, and the rest I guess is just natural talent?

    • @RampageDon
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      1010 months ago

      I would say type of practice,as well as understanding what exactly you are practicing, is important as well. If you practice 10k hours but you are practicing with poor technique or sub optimal methods you will only get so far

      • loobkoob
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        310 months ago

        Yeah, there’s a lot to be said for what the quality of the practice is. Someone just practicing something for 200 hours could see less (relative) improvement than someone who, for instance, records themselves doing something and watches it back so they can find the things they really need to focus on, and then practices those things for 50 hours. Coaching themselves, essentially.

        Of course, it may just be that more focused, high-quality practice just lets people reach their ceiling faster and doesn’t actually give them any long-term advantage - I don’t know. It’s something that would be interesting but difficult to study.

      • P03 Locke
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        110 months ago

        So, why read the Vox “article” when I can just read the Slate one?

  • AutoTL;DRB
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    610 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Covering psychology the past several years, I’ve grown used to reading about how classic, viral experiments in the field are failing in rigorous retests.

    He dubbed it the “10,000-hour rule.” “Ten thousand hours is the magic number of greatness,” Gladwell wrote, drawing on anecdotes from famous success-havers (like Bill Gates and the Beatles), but also on the 1993 paper (which according to Google Scholar has been cited more than 9,800 times).

    The replication — conducted by Brooke Macnamara and Megha Maitra of Case Western Reserve University — included a somewhat larger sample size and tighter study controls, and was preregistered (meaning that the scientists locked their methods and analysis plans in place before they collected any data, preventing them from retroactively changing their premise to fit their findings).

    Because implied in the rule (at least, to me) is a deeply self-deprecating message: that if we fail to achieve greatness, it’s our own damn fault.

    The 10,000-hour rule is compelling in a world that clings to the idea that people rise up through society based on merit.

    The debunking studies do provide an optimistic takeaway of their own: We can all improve when we put our mind to it, but we don’t have to hold ourselves to an impossible standard.


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