Well that was an absolute banger of a season. Upsets, playoff controversy, heartbreak, ecstasy and whatever the hell CU was doing. This poll will likely stay open for a week or two to let people who may not visit a cfb community as much in the postseason still have a chance to submit a ballot. It has been an absolute pleasure hanging out with this tiny community, and hopefully it continues to grow. Speaking of community, shout out to @[email protected], who very nearly predicted the final score of the NC game with a prediction of 35-17, you can almost pick my lottery numbers anytime.

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    510 months ago

    I’ve given up on CFB. Its so tilted toward the SEC and Big 10, both in perception and funding, that there’s only a little drama to wring out. Especially true where it concerns Alabama.

    I don’t see any way to preserve college athletics with integrity. Better to move to a system of club teams in college towns.

      • g0d0fm15ch13fOPM
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        110 months ago

        I would love a promotion/relegation format if it maintained regionality and allowed for cross division rivalry games to continue (though I have no clue how that would fuck up the relegation system).

    • g0d0fm15ch13fOPM
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      110 months ago

      This is exactly why I will always maintain that regional rivalries (or whatever ND does) is the best part of this sport and should be a serious indicator of program quality. In this case it doesn’t matter if the SEC and the 2PAC are on different levels, because what’s important is beating the foes that are on your playing level. Sure, having conference champs getting autobids in the playoff is a logical extension of that notion. But I believe the bigger the field gets, the more potential there is for lopsided games.

  • @[email protected]M
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    110 months ago

    My final ballot. Computer poll. Who’s got it better than Michigan? Evidently absolutely nooooobody. But it’s pretty standard that my poll puts the CFP winner ahead by a wide margin (a notable exception being when it declared an OSU as the national champion in 2017).

    I know it’s weird that Oregon finished ahead of Washington, although it’s really close. Keep in mind this is essentially a power rating – put those 2 teams on a neutral site tomorrow and I’m sure Vegas would still favor Oregon despite the H2H. For the record, I personally don’t but I tried to eliminate as much bias as possible from the algorithm.

    Also, pretty happy with Texas at number 5. It was a good season.

    Bonus musing: Since I’ve ran the last 9 CFB seasons through the same algorithm, I was curious how this Michigan team compares to other top teams. Turns out the 2023 Wolverines rank number 4 out of 1,106 FBS teams1, trailing only 2022 Georgia, 2019 LSU, and 2021 Georgia (in that order). Also, if any sickos are wondering who the worst team was, it’s likely 2020 UMass (or 2019 UMass if you want to exclude the COVID year).

    1Apparently half my data for the 2018 season got wiped somehow, but fortunately it kept the top 70 teams. I’ll have to crunch that season’s numbers again at some point, but at least it won’t have any bearing on the comparison of elite teams. Also, in 2020 I only ranked 127 teams since 3 opted out, and that season in general had a slightly adjusted formula for obvious reasons.

    Full ranking:
    Rank Change Team Record Points
    1 - Michigan 15-0 1217
    2 +4 Georgia 13-1 1021
    3 -1 Oregon 12-2 994
    4 +1 Washington 14-1 988
    5 -2 Texas 12-2 935
    6 -2 Florida State 13-1 865
    7 +4 Notre Dame 10-3 851
    8 - Alabama 12-2 850
    9 -2 Ohio State 11-2 849
    10 -1 Oklahoma 10-3 824
    11 -1 Penn State 10-3 806
    12 +1 Arizona 10-3 794
    13 +2 Kansas State 9-4 760
    14 -2 Louisville 10-4 755
    15 +3 Missouri 11-2 746
    16 -2 SMU 11-3 745
    17 - LSU 10-3 724
    18 +3 Ole Miss 11-2 722
    19 -3 Liberty 13-1 703
    20 +10 Tennessee 9-4 698
    T21 +7 USC 8-5 695
    T21 +5 Virginia Tech 7-6 695
    23 -1 Kansas 9-4 684
    24 - Clemson 9-4 677
    25 -3 Texas A&M 7-6 676
    26 +3 Oklahoma State 10-4 673
    27 -7 Oregon State 8-5 669
    28 -9 Iowa 10-4 668
    29 -3 Duke 8-5 667
    30 -5 Troy 11-3 666
    31 -1 Wisconsin 7-6 653
    32 +9 Maryland 8-5 650
    33 -1 Miami (FL) 7-6 647
    34 +12 West Virginia 9-4 643
    35 +5 UCLA 8-5 639
    T36 -2 Miami (OH) 11-3 637
    T36 +1 Utah 8-5 637
    T36 -1 UCF 6-7 637
    39 -7 North Carolina 8-5 634
    40 +4 Kentucky 7-6 625
    41 -2 Iowa State 7-6 624
    42 -4 JMU 11-2 623
    T43 -2 Toledo 11-3 621
    T43 - NC State 9-4 621
    45 -10 New Mexico State 10-5 618
    46 -1 Boise State 8-6 613
    47 - Appalachian State 9-5 612
    48 +10 South Alabama 7-6 611
    49 +3 UTSA 9-4 610
    50 +5 Georgia Tech 7-6 606
    51 +6 Texas Tech 7-6 603
    52 -4 Auburn 6-7 598
    53 -2 UNLV 9-5 594
    54 +5 Memphis 10-3 584
    55 +4 Northwestern 8-5 583
    56 -3 Tulane 11-3 580
    57 +7 Fresno State 9-4 575
    58 +10 Air Force 9-4 570
    59 +8 Rutgers 7-6 569
    60 +6 Ohio 10-3 568
    61 -13 Washington State 5-7 564
    62 -12 Nebraska 5-7 559
    63 +1 Jacksonville State 9-4 556
    64 -11 TCU 5-7 549
    65 -3 California 6-7 546
    66 +5 Northern Illinois 7-6 543
    T67 +5 Wyoming 9-4 534
    T67 +12 Boston College 7-6 534
    69 -13 Florida 5-7 533
    70 +5 Minnesota 6-7 529
    71 +5 Bowling Green 7-6 527
    72 - San Jose State 7-6 526
    73 +4 Louisiana 6-7 517
    74 -13 South Carolina 5-7 516
    75 -12 Illinois 5-7 513
    76 +7 Texas State 8-5 510
    77 -9 Colorado 4-8 507
    78 -8 Purdue 4-8 504
    79 +23 USF 7-6 503
    80 +6 Coastal Carolina 8-5 496
    81 -7 Syracuse 6-7 495
    82 +3 Western Kentucky 8-5 491
    83 -2 Rice 6-7 482
    84 -6 Arkansas 4-8 471
    85 +9 Old Dominion 6-7 467
    86 +2 Georgia Southern 6-7 465
    T87 +9 Arkansas State 6-7 462
    T87 -7 Houston 4-8 462
    89 -7 Pittsburgh 3-9 456
    90 +15 Georgia State 7-6 452
    91 +4 Utah State 6-7 450
    92 -9 Wake Forest 4-8 449
    93 +5 Marshall 6-7 444
    94 -7 BYU 5-7 441
    95 -6 Mississippi State 5-7 434
    96 -6 Cincinnati 3-9 432
    T97 -6 FAU 4-8 431
    T97 -6 Indiana 3-9 431
    99 -6 Virginia 3-9 429
    100 -3 UNT 5-7 418
    101 -3 Colorado State 5-7 416
    102 -1 Eastern Michigan 6-7 413
    103 -3 Middle Tennessee 4-8 412
    104 -1 Baylor 3-9 404
    105 -1 Sam Houston 3-9 402
    T106 -1 San Diego State 4-8 392
    T106 -1 Buffalo 3-9 392
    108 - Hawaii 5-8 387
    109 - Central Michigan 5-7 383
    110 - ECU 2-10 380
    T111 - Ball State 4-8 379
    T111 - Arizona State 3-9 379
    T113 - Army 5-6 377
    T113 - Western Michigan 4-8 377
    115 - Michigan State 4-8 372
    116 - UAB 4-8 371
    117 - UTEP 3-9 367
    118 - Louisiana Tech 3-9 360
    119 - Navy 5-6 355
    120 - Connecticut 3-9 353
    121 - Akron 2-10 352
    T122 - New Mexico 4-8 348
    T122 - Stanford 3-9 348
    T124 - Charlotte 3-9 345
    T124 - Vanderbilt 2-10 345
    126 - Tulsa 4-8 342
    127 - FIU 4-8 338
    128 - Southern Mississippi 3-9 329
    129 - Nevada 2-10 324
    130 - Massachusetts 3-9 312
    131 - Temple 3-9 304
    132 - UL Monroe 2-10 284
    133 - Kent State 1-11 259
    • g0d0fm15ch13fOPM
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      110 months ago

      Is this because they get extra games to influence the algorithm?