The U.S. and U.K. led a series of airstrikes in Yemen on Thursday evening, setting off alarms globally about how the attacks play into the smoldering regional risk of conflict — including a stream of questions from Congress about whether Biden was legally authorized to conduct the strikes at all.

  • @Pohl
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    665 months ago

    Repeal the AUMF you fucking cowards! Otherwise, shut your little mouths and be the meek useless branch that you seem determined to be.

    Put up or shut up congress.

    • BraveSirZaphod
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      Yeah, there’s absolutely a valid question of whether the AUMF is a good idea or not, but the fact of the matter is that it did pass, it is in force, and therefore essentially any military action - especially in response to direct attacks on American military ships - is unquestionably legal.

      If Congress would like to complain about the President conducting war without its authority, they should perhaps revoke the essentially unlimited authority to conduct war that it gave him.

      • @[email protected]
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        85 months ago

        What’s the argument that it’s a good idea? That congress is dysfunctional and can’t respond to urgent threats in a timely manner?

        • BraveSirZaphod
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          Basically, and that in the modern era where attacks can happen very quickly and with zero warning from non-state actors (as opposed to having to march an army across fields for days), the President needs to be able to react very quickly.

          Given the current state of Congress, with a shutdown looming, no real plan, and apparently now some rumblings of a plan to oust the Speaker yet again, I can kinda understand the logic.

          More cynically, it isolates Congress members from any political accountability.

          • @[email protected]
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            65 months ago

            I understand the logic in this case but I still think congress should have more oversight of US military force. If the entire body is too cumbersome to react quickly, surely a delegated committee could be formed that can approve or deny actions quickly. The danger of having that power unilaterally available to the president is too great.

          • @agitatedpotato
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            45 months ago

            So they really said “Instead of making our congress functional again, we’ll drop some of the oversights on warfare”. Brilliant.

      • @FireTower
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        55 months ago

        “All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void.” Marbury vs. Madison, 5 US (2 Cranch) 137, 174, 176, (1803)

        • BraveSirZaphod
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          105 months ago

          Rep Tlaib is welcome to file a lawsuit if she thinks the AUMF in unconstitutional. It would be a bit strange though if it survived 23 years of use, including actions in Iraq, Syria, Iran, Pakistan, and Afghanistan, and then a response to direct attacks on US Navy ships winds up being what sinks it.

          But again, these representatives can sue if they’re so confident.

          • themeatbridge
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            35 months ago

            And would anyone expect this court to rule the AUMF unconstitutional?

            • BraveSirZaphod
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              As I said, it’s been in use for coming up on 23 years now. There have been plenty of Courts available during that time.

              Saying that it’s not a good law - which I would actually agree with - is a very different thing from saying that it’s unconstitutional.

        • @yesman
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          It’s ironic you bring up Marbury vs. Madison. The case where the Supreme Court gave itself the extra-constitutional authority to strike down laws.

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    The U.S. and U.K. led a series of airstrikes in Yemen on Thursday evening, setting off alarms globally about how the attacks play into the smoldering regional risk of conflict — including a stream of questions from Congress about whether Biden was legally authorized to conduct the strikes at all.

    In a statement, President Joe Biden said, “Today, at my direction, U.S. military forces—together with the United Kingdom and with support from Australia, Bahrain, Canada, and the Netherlands—successfully conducted strikes against a number of targets in Yemen used by Houthi rebels to endanger freedom of navigation in one of the world’s most vital waterways.”

    With Israel being brought before the International Court of Justice in the Hague for allegedly committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza, the Houthi blockade of Israeli trade in the Red Sea could gain a newfound global legitimacy.

    “It’s appalling that instead of acting to stop Israeli war crimes, the Biden administration chose to further damage both our global reputation and our Constitutional system by launching a new unauthorized conflict against Yemen.”

    “Iran sowed hatred across the Middle East, and the world is now reaping endless attacks from Hezbollah, Hamas and Houthis,” said Rep. Brian Mast of Florida, who showed up to Congress in an IDF uniform on October 13, 2023.

    While Biden justified his Yemen strikes without congressional authorization, in 2020, when President Donald Trump was escalating hostilities with Iran, he was a staunch defender of the notion that Congress should be consulted before taking military action that could spark U.S. involvement in a regional war.


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    • @Fedizen
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      355 months ago

      what, specifically, are you talking about?

    • BraveSirZaphod
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      115 months ago

      The numerous times that he has proceeded to not do something after the SCOTUS tells him that it’s unconstitutional.

    • @BrianTheeBiscuiteer
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      75 months ago

      I mean, every time he doesn’t violate it. It’s a “low score is better” kind of thing.

    • katy ✨
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      55 months ago

      i’m begging you to stop getting your view on politics from twitter and take a civics class.