• PlasterAnalyst
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    The u.s. birt rate has been declining since the 2007 recession. It also declined during the great depression. This is a failing of u.s. economic policy. There’s not enough regulations on businesses and the middle class is suffering. Many people don’t think it’s responsible to bring children into the world when there’s no hope for a decent future for them.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/08/20/key-findings-about-u-s-immigrants/

    https://econofact.org/the-mystery-of-the-declining-u-s-birth-rate

    • @GiganOP
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      That’s fine if birth rates are falling (to some extent) but they still shouldn’t be eclipsed by illegal immigration.

  • @[email protected]
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    711 months ago

    I keep clicking on these conservative posts hoping to find one worth up voting because I’m tired of the extremist left politics on Lemmy… but clickbait YouTube videos?

    Is this just a misinformation effort to divide people or what?

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        -711 months ago

        Fair enough, I’ll keep looking for conservative content I feel I can up vote. Fwiw I didn’t downvote this post and did up vote your comment.

        Just trying to balance out the radicalism on here, and conservative ideology does have some valid points.

          • @[email protected]
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            Yeah understandable, there are a lot of radicalized useful idiots on here. I’ve come close to giving up on Lemmy because it’s an extremist echo chamber sometimes. People who clearly don’t have much experience in life and a limited understanding of sociopolitical dynamics will advocate violence to get what they want. People downvote me here simply because I haven’t closed my mind like them.

            A couple examples of conservative ideals I like are emphasis on efficient government, limiting centralized power, ensuring personal rights, and supporting families as an important social structure. Capital punishment makes sense to me in cases where guilt is clear and rehabilitation very unlikely to succeed.

              • NeuromancerM
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                with the latter falling more toward a centrist position (basically giga Hitler by lemmy standards)

                It is funny, by lemmy standards I am giga Hitler other than being a Democrat ;)

                I am more socially left as I am not religious and I believe in a small government but that doesn’t fit into the uterus of a female. I think everyone should share the cost of running the country, not just a few. I think pain makes us stronger and when the plebes get their tax bill, they may question the spending.

                I find most liberals lazy and ignorant. Since their parents are just upstairs, they are used to having someone tell them what to do and strive for a nanny state since they can’t control themselves. I prefer the government to stay out of most of our day-to-day lives.

                As Ronnie use to say, the scariest words in the world are I am from the government and I am here to help.

    • @GiganOP
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      I didn’t think it was clickbait, the graphs he presents are all sourced. I’m also tired of the extremist left-wing politics on Lemmy, that’s why I posted something

      • NeuromancerM
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        -911 months ago

        I am conservative but I’m not religious. They places me about in the middle of most things since I’m not trying to annoy the religious and I’m not beating the Bible. Extreme left or right is dangerous. Any ideology that ignores other viewpoints is concerning.

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    What’s happening here is a derailment of any discussion about sensible border policy, and a distraction from the failure of the border wall plan that a certain republican repeatedly claimed Mexico would pay for (that Mexico never actually paid for), by means of attacking ideological opponents with specious accusations.

    The pattern of manipulative behavior used by abusive people has an acronym: DARVO: deny, attack, reverse victim and offender. So it goes like this: republicans aren’t racist, democrats are the real racists. Republicans were just trying to protect America from a lot of bad hombres but dems are welcoming in illegals to exploit them for cheap labor and votes.

    I see loud and accusatory distractions from the fact that the $15 billion border wall is regularly defeated by $5 ladders. I see rhetorical diversions around the fact that republicans regularly fly pro-slavery insurrectionist confederate battle flags. I see a strange fascination with the racist democrats of the 1800’s, meanwhile in 2024 senator Tuberville® claims white nationalists are not racists and Rep Crane® refers to African Americans as “colored people” during an anti-woke tirade.

    And in the accusation about democrats wanting illegals for cheap labor, "like slaves"as is suggested, never will there ever be any acknowledgement of the decades long republican effort of a race-to-the-bottom erosion of workers rights and devaluation of labor in this country.

    Are the democrats so great? No, they are very terrible. The other side is also bad, and is gas-lighteningly evasive and downright dishonest about the part they had to play in creating the current situation.

  • @gaifux
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    Wow so this is the state of Lemmy? Completely one-sided regressive left leaning politics, and open brigading of communities with differing political ideas? What happened to actual discussion? It just seems like the average Lemmy user is either 12 or is still seething at their dad while still living in mom’s basement lol