From my outside perspective, he seems like an amazing candidate with actual left-wing policies and ideas, yet I’ve never heard a single American mention his name?

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    On Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, West said it’s “a criminal invasion, provoked by the expansion of NATO”

    Fuck off, it’s provoked entirely by Putin being a shithead. The invasion proves the worth of NATO. Coincidentally , NATO is something West wants to get rid of.

    His other positions are fine, but I’d prefer a president who’s not gargling Putin’s balls.

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      He’s also said:

      West has also described Russia’s invasion of Ukraine as a “crime against humanity.”

      “Russia has its own deep authoritarian and neofascist elites who are in control and concerned about the Russian empire being gloriously based on its past, Ukraine being a part of it, and Ukraine not existing,” he told U.S. magazine Jacobin in November 2022.

      “This is the typical colonizing language that you get going back to the early moments of the age of Europe—the people are not there, the land is ours, etc.”

      Leftists are anti-NATO that doesn’t mean they go and support another imperialist power (Tankies excluded, but they’re tankies so fuck em).

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        Blaming NATO for what Ukraine is going through is copying Russian propaganda. It is absolutely an example of “gargling Putin’s balls” at this point.

  • @morphballganon
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    We can’t have a discussion about him until the country abolishes first-past-the-post and implements ranked-choice or STAR voting.

    Anything you might think you’re accomplishing with that discussion is just pushing us toward fascism (due to stealing Biden votes (don’t kill the messenger)). So don’t, obviously.

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        You guys really need mandatory elections with a preferential voting system

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          We also need universal single payer healthcare, UBI, and bunch of other stuff but we are too busy punching ourselves in the dick to appease the corporations that own our politicians.

    • @[email protected]
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      We can’t have a discussion about him

      Umm, We obviously can. That’s literally this thread.

      until the country abolishes first-past-the-post

      It’s not up to national politicians to replace first-past-the-post. That is a state-level political decision. With that in mind it is crazy to expect that all 50 states will replace our first-past-the-post voting system anytime soon.

      due to stealing Biden votes

      hahaha, As if you can steal votes. That idea is absurd.

      No politician is entitled to your vote. Everyone should vote for the best candidate regardless of their perceived popularity. Unfortunately what people should do is largely irrelevant because as a general rule people don’t do what they should do. What they actually end up doing is the perceived easier action. And that is voting for the least shitty option (in their opinion) in the general election.

      I would say the optimal voting strategy is the least shitty option currently, but I would not bash anyone for voting for who they think will be the best candidate for the position.

      • @morphballganon
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        It’s because of attitudes like yours that Trump won in 2016.

        • @[email protected]
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          In what way?

          I would say it is more because of people that try to gatekeep what people say and do.

          But in reality, it just because we have a shitty political system and a culture full of shallow people who unwilling to use rational thought instead of shallow judgements.

          • @morphballganon
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            If leftists voted for Hillary in 2016, abortion would still be legal.

            So, to suggest voting for West, you must either be celebrating the rescinding of reproductive rights for women, or you are unable to comprehend the connection.

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              If centrists voted for Bernie in 2016, abortion would still be legal.

              Why is it always leftists that have to sacrifice their ideals for centrists/right-wingers?

              • @morphballganon
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                Bernie wasn’t on the ballot, but you are clearly quite well aware of that. Blocking for enabling fascism.

                • DeceptichumOP
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                  He was in the primaries, why didn’t they vote for him then?

                  You can’t block reality, stop supporting right wing politicians.

  • Ashy
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    Well, he’s running for a 3rd party, so there is zero chance of him winning.

    • snooggums
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      But he dies have a chance of siphoning votes from the party he is most closely aligned with.

  • @finestnothing
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    From his Wikipedia page, he’s a philosopher with no political associations. He’s also from Oklahoma, and at best Oklahoma is just an OK state

    • @WorkIsSlow
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      There’s a section on his Wikipedia page about his political activism and work with politicians.

      • @finestnothing
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        Well, you see, I didn’t mention that because I didn’t read past the list of facts about him where it said independent, and honestly I just can’t be trusted to do proper research

  • @ghostdoggtv
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    I’ve heard he owes over 6 figures in child support and nobody has ever addressed it. I support other candidates.

  • @xc2215x
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    Not running for Democrats or Republicans.

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    He exists as a spoiler to Biden. Nothing more.

  • @[email protected]
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    The main issue with Cornell West is that he’s not really a politician. He’s an amazing scholar, activist, and voice, but doesn’t seem to be able to put together a robust campaign. He started on the working families party, I believe, then switched to Green, and has now removed himself from the Green party ticket.

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    His website isn’t secure and looks ancient. Also the front page is just a closeup of his face. It is clearly focused on shilling for his speaking and books. So based off of that somewhat shallow look, I would say he is just running as a publicity stunt for his business. Which is fine, I guess, but not someone that I would vote for.

    Edited to add: He actually does have a campaign website at cornelwest2024 that I initially missed. I went to the top result which was his main website.

    • DeceptichumOP
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      https://www.cornelwest2024.com/

      Is his presidential run website.

      You would’ve been looking at his ‘personal’ website. He’s been a popular figure for decades, has worked at 4 Ivy league uni’s, and even cameos in the Matrix 2/3 movies so I don’t think he needs to do a presidential run to drum up book sales.

      • @[email protected]
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        He’s clearly not a popular figure if you’ve never heard his name.

        His policies seem alright but are more like a dreamy wishlist rather than anything achievable. The paragraph of his wiki about his 2024 presidental run is more convincing than his website to me. And that is saying something.

        • DeceptichumOP
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          I meant as in I hadn’t heard his name in relationship to the election.

          Also have you seen a political website? His is pretty good by standards. Look at Bidens for example, it’s a pop-up asking for donations and a link to a mailing list, not even a quick description on policies.

          • @[email protected]
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            Yes, A one page bulleted list of vague policies under 10 headings all containing the word justice at the end is not convincing. Not to mention the typo. Kinda seems like you are looking at him through rose-colored glasses.

            Your right Biden’s sucks too, but at least people know what to expect from him. It’s a lot harder for an independent outsider to get votes than a known person.