Strange women laying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government
Why are so many absurd Money Python bits edit: about social justice issues set in the Middle Ages or Bronze Age Middle East still so relevant in 2024?
The middle aged are the foundation of our modern culture and societies. At least ones we have very good records of.
Fair, but I just meant “Why are we still fighting the same battles for social justice and cultural progress as they were fighting 50 years ago, 1000 years ago, and 2000 years ago?”
Because evil happens -> people stop the evil -> people are happy for while -> people start forgetting about how bad it was -> evil starts happening again
Those that don’t know history are doomed to repeat it
I think that’s pretty dismissive of the real problem. The real problem is that we (humanity) have a large portion of our population actively working to promote regressive and/or outright oppressive ideologies.
Because, IMHO, people forgot how bad those regressive tendencies since its been too good for too long unfortunately
I don’t think that last sentence paints the full picture, despite being catchy.
More often, things turn bad for a slew of different reasons.
Let’s take the situation of abortion rights as an example. The people that have advocated for the end of all abortions in the US never believed abortion brought anything positive. It’s not about history being forgotten, it’s about a conflict between two groups of people having different opinions, and one imposing their belief on the other group.
I’m not saying this to sound smart. But identifying the proper reasons explaining a bad societal change helps determine where to target counter-actions.
And how are those people getting more and more people on their side? Not teaching history.
Book bannings, going against CRT, stuff like that. Makes it easier in the long run at least
That’s besides the point. Your original formulation lets people think that everybody believed that abortion rights were a good thing at some point in history. Which is false.
The christofascists were always salty about their defeat. They waited until they were powerful enough to strike back, using mechanisms that are too complex to detail here.
While education is part of the retaliation against christofascism (and not just history education), Americans will need more than history books to fight back. This is far too simplistic.
Knowing who the enemy is - and there are identifiable enemies in this case - is crucial. And I think the saying you mentioned in your first comment is a bit of a thought-terminating cliché.
It sounds great, but it’s kinda garbage.
Old white guy: why would anyone be against status quo. Who cares if it doesn’t make sense, things are going great for me
I’ll just leave this here
Harry Hill: 'I am a bit anti-monarchy at the moment, (and he’s otherwise openly criticised the establishment)Like, sure, the optics of it are what you’d expect from a kids show on main stream media, so - not great, but he never actually disagrees with her, he’s mostly making anxious faces, probably assuming the whole segment will end up on the editing room floor. If he’d agreed with her the whole thing would have definitely been cut and he’d get replaced, it’s not like he could have had an honest conversation with her on junior bloody bake off…
E: either way, this is about her, I hate that it’s become about him…
I am glad you brought additional context to the clip. I can see how he’d be reluctant to interject his views on the monarchy himself. I didn’t know how I should have read “little leftist firebrand”, even though I did enjoy her unfiltered and clear answers.
Exactly, it’s not a talk show or even an interview, it’s filler on a kids show! That it even got to that point is impressive in its own right…
I think a good take away from this is that kids need more space, especially in more mainstream media (rather than just tiktok and that, which have both value and risks, like most things) to have open and honest conversations with adults about politics and how it impacts their everyday lives (which it absolutely does). Kids are a lot more in tune and in touch than most people give them credit for.
Or they parrot whatever an influential adult in their lives has said to them.
Kids are a lot more in tune and in touch than most people give them credit for.
Thanks for volunteering yourself to demonstrate my point, and at the same time giving an example of exactly why open and honest conversations with other adults in a public widely viewed forum are important. Well done.
You’ve lost me. Are you saying that children have something new and interesting to bring to the table of political discussion, or that it’s somehow interesting to hear an adults opinion in a child’s voice?
interesting to hear an adults opinion in a child’s voice?
lol what? 😂😂😂
Your previous statement demonstrates that you don’t give kids any credit. It also provides an example of exactly why kids should have more space to have open conversations about politics because yes, they absolutely would have new and interesting things to bring to the table, and it they are in a situation where they are being manipulated by one or a small group of adults and is parroting their opinions back, to provide them different opinions and the space to talk them through.
It’s good for children to see these conversations, and the challenges to them, which gives both the child talking and any children watching the idea that what they think and know is worth bouncing off other adults and discussing to get a better position, and their perceptions colored by what their parents have taught them are worthy of consideration.
But that’s not always the case. Plenty of kids can take in media or just life observations and make their own conclusions, it’s true though a lot of their views are just what their hear from adults around them. I think that’s true of adults too to a lesser extent.
I can actually see people saying that verbatim non jokingly
What a heroine. She probably doesn’t even realise it.
I like to think they left that in because they don’t want people to think they can’t badmouth the monarchy and will get in trouble for that.
Kids say the darndest things
Yes more like her
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