The Biden administration and the Israeli government diverge sharply over how Gaza should be governed when the war ends.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel on Thursday appeared to rule out a postwar peace process that would lead to the establishment of a sovereign Palestinian state, rebuffing calls from the United States and others to start working toward that goal.

“In any arrangement in the foreseeable future — with an arrangement or without one — Israel must have security control over all the territory west of the Jordan,” Mr. Netanyahu said at a news conference, referring to an area including occupied territory that Palestinians hope will one day become their independent state. “This clashes with the idea of sovereignty. What can you do?”

The Biden administration and the Israeli government have diverged sharply over how Gaza will be governed when the fighting ends. President Biden and his top diplomat, Antony J. Blinken, have urged Israeli officials to move toward the eventual establishment of a Palestinian state. Mr. Biden has suggested that a “revitalized” Palestinian Authority, which is based in the West Bank, run a post-Hamas Gaza as an interim step toward that goal.

But Israeli officials have repeatedly dismissed such calls, saying they are focused on the war in Gaza. On Thursday, Mr. Netanyahu told reporters he had rebuffed the latest exhortations.

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  • @kaitco
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    Netanyahu needs to freaking go. He needed to go back 20 years when I was a hearing about him arguing with Arafat, and he needs to go even more now.

  • Cyborganism
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    Netanyahu is going to wreck Joe Biden’s reputation and allow Trump bank in power. US democracy is doing to die and the world might be thrown into chaos and a third world war thanks to Israël.

    • @IchNichtenLichten
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      I’m sure Netanyahu would much rather deal with Trump. All he has to do is compliment his big, manly hands and the orange shitbird will do whatever Bibi asks.

      • queermunist she/her
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        Biden also does whatever Bibi asks, he just is more vocally whiny about it. There’s functionally zero difference.

        Trump is definitely worse domestically, but I just don’t buy that he’d be worse on this issue specifically.

        • @IchNichtenLichten
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          Biden also does whatever Bibi asks, he just is more vocally whiny about it. There’s functionally zero difference.

          I disagree. Trump is essentially amoral, there’s no request he wouldn’t consider. I don’t think Biden is doing nearly enough to stand up to Netanyahu but to say they are the same isn’t accurate.

          • queermunist she/her
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            Has there been a request that Biden won’t consider? I don’t mean when Biden vocally disagrees with something, I mean has he ever refused what Israel asks for materially?

            • @IchNichtenLichten
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              311 months ago

              Publicly? Not that I’m aware of. Behind the scenes, who knows?

              If you’re looking for a stark difference between the two on foreign policy, Trump would happily hand over Ukraine to his best buddy. Israel/Palestine is a different beast but to say the two Presidents are the same isn’t accurate.

              • queermunist she/her
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                Publicly? Not that I’m aware of. Behind the scenes, who knows?

                You have to realize, then, that it could be even worse behind the scenes. Biden needs to appease his angry base publicly, but privately? lol

                Trump would happily hand over Ukraine to his best buddy.

                Whereas Biden deliberately sabotaged peace talks to keep the war going. Let’s not pretend either side is “better” on that issue either.

                • @IchNichtenLichten
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                  I’m not sure you understand how diplomacy works. You don’t have difficult discussions in front of TV cameras.

                  It’s not like I’m even a fan of Biden but your absolutist, “they are the same” stance needed a reality check.

                  Whereas Biden deliberately sabotaged peace talks to keep the war going.

                  Do you have a source on this?

    • alienzx
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      711 months ago

      Isn’t that what the evangelicals want?

    • queermunist she/her
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      A third world war might be starting right now and be fully underway before the election even happens.

  • The Assman
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    Shut off the weapon faucet then you dumbasses. Just once I would like the whole US government to think about how fucking stupid we look on the world stage.

    • PugJesus
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      Same way actual Berlusconi did. He’s a shithead who lets shitheads live out their shithead fantasies of being powerful shitheads just like him someday.

      Also, deep connections in the political arena and control over popular media.

  • PugJesus
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    “This clashes with the idea of sovereignty. What can you do?”

    Israel’s sovereignty has now been revoked. What can you do?