• unalivejoy
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    345 months ago

    Reminder that the last time congress declared war was on Japan in 1941, then Germany shortly after.

    • @Mikelius
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      105 months ago

      Germany declared war in the US first, which was a colossally stupid move by hitler.

  • @[email protected]
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    5 months ago

    Are you referring to the retaliation for weeks of unprovoked houthi attacks or the culmination of 70 years of the US supporting Israel?

      • PugJesus
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        185 months ago

        That would be the retaliation for weeks of unprovoked Houthi attacks on civilian shipping.

        • @gmtom
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          Depends on your definition of “unprovoked” those ships were technically running a blockade in Yemen national waters.

          Western nation have “attacked” civilian ships for similar reasons too lately, but nobody cares about it because the powerful Western nations get to decide what is acceptable and what isn’t.

          e: downvote me if you want. It doesn’t change the facts.

          • PugJesus
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            125 months ago

            “Technically running a blockade in Yemen national wateres”

            Funny way of saying “Were attacked in international waters regardless of whether their destination was Israel”, but I guess facts are inconvenient little things.

            • @gmtom
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              Were attacked in international waters

              0 of these attacks were in international waters.

              but I guess facts are inconvenient little things.

              The fucking irony of this statement is palpable.

              https://twitter.com/detresfa_/status/1735979072126423252/photo/1

              Here is a map of the major red sea attacks.

              If you could please point out where on this image the international waters our I would much appreciate it, because i can only see yemeni terirtorial waters (and eritrea and djibouti but none of the attacks accoured in their waters). That’s if you can find time in your busy schedule of being a smug condescending and Co fidently icorrect asshole (:

              • PugJesus
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                85 months ago

                “All of the incidents to date have occurred outside Yemeni territorial waters, but even if they were within territorial waters, these attacks would still constitute a violation of international law, in particular the right of innocent or transit passage and the fundamental rights of the seafarers onboard to carry out their work and to do so without fear of attack,” the spokesperson for the International Chamber of Shipping said.

                That’s if you can find time in your busy schedule of being a smug condescending and Co fidently icorrect asshole (:

                Truly astounding. Dunning-Kruger effect in the flesh.

                • @gmtom
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                  Again the irony.

                  I provided you a map that shows you where the ships were when they were attacked, this is data you can verify for yourself.

                  You can look at that map with your own eyes and see that these attacks occoured within Yemeni territorial water.

                  It’s quite literally an undeniable fact that you can verify for yourself. I know you won’t though because you’ve already decided you were right before doing any sort of checking for yourself, then when someone comes along with ACTUAL information that anyone can verify and not just an unsourced quote from someone with every reason to lie, you lash out because it goes the world view you constructed before looking for the facts yourself.

                  Also. No, seafarers don’t have the right to violate the sovereignty of a countries terirtorial waters without repercussions, especially when they are supplying weapoms and other material to a country that is currently commiting genocide, so is not “innocent passage”. Or are you going to say that when the UK seized the Grace 1 or the recent incident where the US lost 2 SEALs boarding a boat heading for Yemen, are violations of international law too?

                  Like if you want to claim these happened in international waters please provide me some actual proof, instead of being condescendin. I assume you’re an adult right? Then can we argue this maturely without devoling into acting like redditors?

          • @[email protected]
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            Yemen doesn’t have exclusive claim to the entire straight, sorry. At least 50% of the straight would belong to Djibouti on the other side.

            Never mind that the Houthis are rebels and do not represent Yemen.

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              Never mind that the Houthis are rebels and do not represent Yemen.

              They are the defacto government of Yemen and are “rebels” only because they are fighting against a Saudi backed occupation force and they are considered rebels or terrorists because Suadi is backed by the US.

              If the US backed Yemen instead of SA you would be talking about the brave Houthis defending their homeland from the evil Saudi invaders.

              At least 50% of the straight would belong to Djibouti on the other side.

              That’s only if you don’t count the Hanish Islands or the Zubair group of Islands as Yemeni territory. If you factor that then then the vast majority, if not all the attacks have been in Yemeni waters.