• @moistclump
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    1010 months ago

    I’m kind of happy our elementary school students, in BC Canada anyway, don’t get grades any more. Strikes me as an unhelpful focus for learning to be about knowledge in, knowledge regurgitated. Regurgitation right or wrong.

    I don’t know how to encourage true curiosity and ongoing growth but I doubt grades are it.

    • @WalrusByte
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      1410 months ago

      Grades aren’t supposed to be a way to encourage growth, it’s just a way to measure it. Whether it does a good job at that is another question, but I definitely agree that of schools focus on them too much.

      In an ideal world, grades would just be a way to show who needs some extra help with their learning. There are a lot of good teachers that do view them that way, but there are also those who view them as a form of punishment. Almost like a “you’re a BAD student so you got a BAD grade” kind of way. I feel like that’s more discouraging than anything.

      Probably a good move to avoid that altogether in the early grades. Who needs that kind of stress when you’re six years old?

      • fkn
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        310 months ago

        Formative and summative assessments need metrics by which we can demonstrate successful learning objectives and the degree to which those learning objectives were accomplished. Theoretically grades are supposed to represent the degree to which a student’s advancement between formative and summative assessments demonstrates a student’s progress in mastery of the learning objectives. At their core, across all students they represent the successes and failures of the teacher, the learning materials and teaching methods. Provided that a significant number of students show sufficient success and the grading mechanics are not compromised, these grades are a reasonable approximation of an individuals progress through the learning objectives.

        Now… Obviously there are just a plethora of problems in practice across educational institutions. Most schools abjectly fail at any form of reasonable formative assessment and compromised grading (favoritism) is rampant which results in systemic failure of adequate assessment (grading) mechanics and a next to complete breakdown of objective assessments throughout the system. This provides fertile ground for corruption from external pressures (school funding and management cronyism/job security). The result is systemic grade inflation.

        When grade inflation is rampant, it provides an othering mechanic for the social hierarchies present in the institutions that is sufficiently backed by science to be unassailable by the average participant… Even though due to poor implementation it should be rather meaningless.

        • @WalrusByte
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          310 months ago

          Well said. You’ve obviously put a great deal of thought into this.