• @Arete
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    1911 months ago

    Hamas will never accept a ceasefire without full Israeli withdrawal, and Israel will never accept a ceasefire that leaves Hamas in power. There is no middle ground here acceptable to both sides. It’s not going to happen until the situation substantially changes.

    • @CinnerB
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      311 months ago

      You do understand a ceasefire is temporary? It’s not an end. It’s temporary peaceful time so the starving can be fed and the wounded cared for.

      • @Arete
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        511 months ago

        I do, but in the few last rounds of talks Hamas has consistently demanded full Israeli withdrawal as a condition to release any hostages, and a permanent peace prior to releasing all hostages.

        Since Israel is obviously not going to agree to withdraw leaving Hamas to reassert full control, and further would never make a peace treaty with a terrorist organization holding their citizens hostage, I don’t see any path forward here.

    • PhiloOP
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      -3511 months ago

      You don’t want a ceasefire?

      • @PoastRotato
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        2111 months ago

        “This thing seems to be true.”

        “Actually, this thing doesn’t seem to be true, and here’s why.”

        “So you don’t want this thing to be true, then??”

        Maybe now you can see how ridiculous you sound here.

      • @Arete
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        1911 months ago

        I didn’t state any opinion at all. I only discussed what seems politically possible right now.

        • PhiloOP
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          -2611 months ago

          The article says they are making headway, which contradicts your post outright.

          • @Arete
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            1511 months ago

            … I’m stating my reasoning for disagreeing with the article. What I wrote is my opinion, which isn’t something an article can contradict.

            • PhiloOP
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              -2911 months ago

              Your reasoning needs work, it is more cynical than reasoning.

              • @Arete
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                1111 months ago

                Ok so that was where you should have picked a step in my reasoning that you disagree with and explained why.

                • PhiloOP
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                  -2611 months ago

                  No , that is in a debate and that is if you used reason. There have been other ceasefires between Hamas and Israel. No reply is necessary.

  • PhiloOP
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    -3711 months ago

    Whoever downvoted this, is it because you want the fighting to go on?

      • PhiloOP
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        -1911 months ago

        so you admit to manipulating the voting system?

        • amigan
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          11 months ago

          Lol, it’s not just me downvoting you, pal.

          Edit: lmao

          • @jordanlundM
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            611 months ago

            Downvotes are publicly visible, it’s not a conspiracy, it’s mathematics.